Backhoe CK 20 Backhoe Installation

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Sandlot

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Location
CA. High Desert
Tractor
Kioti CK20(Gear)
Yesterday I had to put my backhoe back on my CK. It took about an hour to check things out, make sure I had everything lined up, work the hydraulic back and forth to get her up and level, then back the tractor up to fully engage the brackets. Not bad, I think it will only take half the time in the future. I will use better cribbing to store it on to keep it in a better position. I will also mark those dang hydraulic lines! Just by luck, I got them right the first time! :p
 
/ CK 20 Backhoe Installation #2  
After about 6 times mounting/dismounting my bh to mount the snowblower, I can now do either in about 15 mins. You get a rythum and learn exactly how to leave it.

My dealer put a red ziptie on one of the quick disconnects and the matching line on the bh. Simple yet works so well.
 
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Yea, mine has red ziptie on the upper hose, but nothing on the tractor coupler. I will add a red one to the tractor. Since this was the first time, I just wanted to go through the motions slow and easy. That hydraulic filter is just to easy to mangle and I didn't want replace it before I hit 50 hours!
 
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MY Woods hoe may be different but the ends on one hose are switched so you can't connect them wrong.

It's a good sign when we start mounting backhoes, I love the change of seasons. Switching from cool snow throwing machiones to mean earth digging machines.:)
 
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450EXC said:
MY Woods hoe may be different but the ends on one hose are switched so you can't connect them wrong.

That sounds like a good idea. The only question that comes to mind is, if you buy another 3pt attachment that uses those remotes, will you have to switch one of the ends? Or do they come with one of each and I will be the one that has to switch one of the ends.

450EXC said:
It's a good sign when we start mounting backhoes, I love the change of seasons. Switching from cool snow throwing machiones to mean earth digging machines.:)

Yeah, I love this time of year. I still have about 6 inches of frost about 12" down, but the backhoe rips right through it. Playing in the mud is the tough part, although with all the weight and loaded tires it's pretty fun too!:D
 
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Seasons? Frost? What's that?? ;) I just put mine back on after using the box scraper to level my sons lot! My fittings are not staggered, they are both the same. Now I am taking out a row of long dead Oleander bushes. Those puppies turned out tougher then I thought they would be. I have already bashed up one of my grease zerks on the hoe bucket. :mad:
 
/ CK 20 Backhoe Installation #7  
Hi, I installed the backhoe on my CK20 today, it was quite easy considering, the only hard part was attaching the arm due to a one man opperation, fortunatly I have a forklift, put the underside brackets on the loader frame and the rear support, then put the subframe in place and pinned, with the use of the forklift mounted the backhoe, allways remember the hose with the "red" tiewrap is the "top", 3 letters each, just like "port" is "left" for a boat. after that tighten everything and mount the bucket, it took a couple hours but quite easy. I found it a well built unit and even with lower rpm the boom will rotate quite fast, may restrict using a in line flow control, It takes under 15 mims to remove and re install the backhoe, have to remove the top link to clear the seat is the only part removed, all in all this is quite a solid built unit and lots of grease points.

Now have to wait for frost to go and I can start digging, first job is a stream in front of our house.

Laurence
 
/ CK 20 Backhoe Installation #8  
This is for a Rhino 65A on a LB1914
I removed mine for the first time today to hook up a small rotary cutter I bought. I wanted to make sure the driveshaft they gave me was the right length. It wasn't so I'm glad I checked before I drag all this machinery to my property. The problem I ran into was the torque bracket for the PTO pump gets in the way of the cross member on the subframe.
In the picture my index is pointing to the torque bracket and the middle is pointing to the cross member I'm trying to clear. I may call my dealer next week and see what he recommends. I'm not sure how I removed it but it was even harder going back on.
Backhoe PTO pump bracket
 
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Wow, I see what you mean! You got the thing off so I am guess there is enough flex in that torque bracket to allow the cross member to slip past it. You may need to add a spacer to the torque bracket and move it 1/2" back, if possible. My unit runs off the tractor hydraulics, so I don't have the pump to deal with.
 
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Seasons??? I thought they only came as wet or dry LOL

I just removed my Rhino cutter and mounted the bh2375 for the 1st time in maybe 6 months - thought I'd never get it lined up. Promised the wife that once house is done, all the tractor implements are gonna have permanent, LEVEL, homes when not mounted.

I found learning to use my bh to be one of life's humbling experiences. I was pleasantly surprised that once I started digging, I was actually doing a quite decent job - even the 18 yo "know-it-all" working for me commented favorably.

David
 
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caver said:
This is for a Rhino 65A on a LB1914
I removed mine for the first time today to hook up a small rotary cutter I bought. I wanted to make sure the driveshaft they gave me was the right length. It wasn't so I'm glad I checked before I drag all this machinery to my property. The problem I ran into was the torque bracket for the PTO pump gets in the way of the cross member on the subframe.
In the picture my index is pointing to the torque bracket and the middle is pointing to the cross member I'm trying to clear. I may call my dealer next week and see what he recommends. I'm not sure how I removed it but it was even harder going back on. -Steve
Backhoe PTO pump bracket

Caver, I do not have a rhino backhoe but judging from your stated problem and the picture provided, it sounds like you will have to remove the PTO pump in order to connect your rotary cutter, so if you remove the pump first it would seem your problem is solved, however you loose your ability to maneuver the backhoe hydraulically, a catch twenty two for-sure. You could use a floor jack but this approach is certainly a PIA. There is one other area you might want to check, on my CK-30 I have to remove the draw bar pin in order for the backhoe to slide by, (in fact I do not use the drawbar so I have left it off the tractor altogether) but the first time I tried to remove the backhoe it vexed me for the better part of an hour. Just some suggestions for the weekend until you get to talk to the pros.
 
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I talked to James Little and it was hard to communicate the problem over the phone but I think he understood what I was having trouble with. He must have a better technique. :D
I suggested cutting some length off the torque plate fingers, that are mounted to the pump, he said that would work too.
 
/ CK 20 Backhoe Installation #13  
Here is a better picture to show you how the PTO pump bracket hangs down
and interferes with the crossmember, when sliding the subframe off.
I took it off and will cut about an inch off the tips. Hauled my tractor over to my place Sunday and put about 5 hours on the clock Monday. :D
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sodamo said:
I found learning to use my bh to be one of life's humbling experiences. I was pleasantly surprised that once I started digging, I was actually doing a quite decent job - even the 18 yo "know-it-all" working for me commented favorably.
David

I needed to dig a 30 foot trench yesterday so I had to put the BH on. It was my first time and didn't take too long. Lining it up was the hard part and I had to use pliers to release the pressure on the fittings. It was resting on a cement floor and I had to back up against a wall to get it into the brackets.
BTW the hoses had a red tywrap on the one for the top fitting.
Running the BH is going to take some time to get used to. I did learn to use the BH to lift the rear wheels out of the mud a few times and swing them to the side without tipping over.

Frank
 

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