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[paulsharvey]

I think that’s the goal of these PHEVs, finding the best compromise between cost of battery and average trip. Even if most trips cause the onboard charging to kick in, there’s going to be some threshold where TCO is optimized.

I wouldn't be surprised if one day they push EVs on us for company vehicles, but they would have to find a way/scheme/plan to pay for my personal power to charge their vehicle. Gas is simple, gas card, and track usage/milage, to prevent fuel theft.

I would think EVs will eventually go to a stand alone separate meter situation for at home charging, allowing road tax to be collected?

 

[Renze]

I think that’s the goal of these PHEVs, finding the best compromise between cost of battery and average trip.

Whenever an electric motor and a battery is involved, it allows for regenerative braking like a hybrid. Even if you never charge from the grid.

 

[paulsharvey]

Whenever an electric motor and a battery is involved, it allows for regenerative braking like a hybrid. Even if you never charge from the grid.

Yeah... that Cherokee did like 2 miles of electric only range, over 150 miles in the day, from regenerative breaking. Might be significantly more in mountains though.

 

[WinterDeere]

I would think EVs will eventually go to a stand alone separate meter situation for at home charging, allowing road tax to be collected?

Maybe easier to collect road tax with vehicle registration, or inspection, or even through insurance carriers.

 

[paulsharvey]

Not to completely rehash the EV threads, but how many square feet of solar would it take to charge a 50 mile range per day? Would it ever pay for itself?

 

[ruffdog]

This article shows the list of top sellers in the US. Stellantis' first product is at #13 and is the Ram 1500. Sales are down a whopping 26%.

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/toyota-rav4-ends-ford-f-150s-reign-as-americas-best-seller/

 

[WinterDeere]

Not to completely rehash the EV threads, but how many square feet of solar would it take to charge a 50 mile range per day? Would it ever pay for itself?

In your sunny state of Florida, generation averages .05 kWh per square foot per day. A quick Google search turns up several claims of miles per kWh, but it seems most Tesla owners are in the neighborhood of 4.5 mi/kWh, so .225 mi/ft2/day.

50 mi/day would require 222 ft2, or roughly 10 x 22 feet, on average. How you manage storage and peaks/valleys is another matter, if your state doesn't offer net metering.

 

[paulsharvey]

In your sunny state of Florida, generation averages .05 kWh per square foot per day. A quick Google search turns up several claims of miles per kWh, but it seems most Tesla owners are in the neighborhood of 4.5 mi/kWh, so .225 mi/ft2/day.

50 mi/day would require 222 ft2, or roughly 10 x 22 feet, on average. How you manage storage and peaks/valleys is another matter, if your state doesn't offer net metering.

That's not as unreasonable as it sounds at first. Let say you build a 16x24 car port, covering the roof entirely, you wouldn't get peak production, because the entire roof wouldn't be producing most of the time. I'm not considering it, at this time, but, that is approaching a usable range/production, And a reasonable installation cost.

 

[kenmbz]

maybe 10 panels and a few batteries to even out the power.
Problem is that you use the EV mostly during the day.
So the battery pack would allow for that.

 

[WinterDeere]

maybe 10 panels and a few batteries to even out the power.
Problem is that you use the EV mostly during the day.
So the battery pack would allow for that.

... or net metering. Has PA abandoned it, yet? I anticipate they will, at some point, but last I heard it was still on the table.