Wolfy
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Isnt that where power really matters? For trailer pullers it sure is.
Chevy vs Ford for work truck
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DarkBlack
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The comparison was for the "best overall truck".
roadhunter
Elite Member
What really matters is drag racing. So clearly the Ford is #1.
Seriously why do people get so fired up about nothing? So what is one truck has 10 more HP. So what if one truck is a 1/2 second faster in the 1/4 mile drag race. Does any of that really matter? Not in my opinion. They are all nice and capable trucks that will handle 99% of what people do with them.
For me the mileage would be the #1 concern as picking a truck that gets an extra MPG or two can save some money over the life of a truck. #2 would be dependability which can be really expensive when having work done on 1 ton diesel trucks. All the rest of the measures like HP, torque, 1/4 mile times, braking, etc are going to be so close they make little difference IMO.
Seriously why do people get so fired up about nothing? So what is one truck has 10 more HP. So what if one truck is a 1/2 second faster in the 1/4 mile drag race. Does any of that really matter? Not in my opinion. They are all nice and capable trucks that will handle 99% of what people do with them.
For me the mileage would be the #1 concern as picking a truck that gets an extra MPG or two can save some money over the life of a truck. #2 would be dependability which can be really expensive when having work done on 1 ton diesel trucks. All the rest of the measures like HP, torque, 1/4 mile times, braking, etc are going to be so close they make little difference IMO.
MinnesotaEric
Super Member
out of 3000 points, there is less than 100 points difference from first to third place.
Ford lost out because of interior design and ride quality over expansion joints. Apparently all driving is done over bridges by gay interior designers. :laughing:
Anyway, I thought it was common knowledge that GMC does a better one ton—unless you mount a snow plow, in which the frame will break.
MinnesotaEric
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out of 3000 points, there is less than 100 points difference from first to third place.
Ford lost out because of interior design and ride quality over expansion joints. Apparently all driving is done over bridges by gay interior designers. :laughing:
Anyway, I thought it was common knowledge that GMC does a better one ton蓉nless you mount a snow plow, in which the frame will break.
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Egon
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Ah-it's just saying the same thing over and over and maybe someone will become a believer.
When bashing folks of a different orientation does that mean your scared you have the qualities?
When bashing folks of a different orientation does that mean your scared you have the qualities?
jayman30
Bronze Member
Here's a good video review by TFT Truck on Youtube comparing the towing ability of all three trucks.
2015 Ford F-350 vs Chevy 3500 vs Ram 3500 Heavy Duty Dually Matchup Towing Review - YouTube
And this one compares the 2015 Ford F-450 vs Ram 3500 Cummins HD pulling 30,000LB loaded trailers:
2015 Ford F-450 vs Ram 3500 Cummins HD Diesel Extreme Towing Review - YouTube
2015 Ford F-350 vs Chevy 3500 vs Ram 3500 Heavy Duty Dually Matchup Towing Review - YouTube
And this one compares the 2015 Ford F-450 vs Ram 3500 Cummins HD pulling 30,000LB loaded trailers:
2015 Ford F-450 vs Ram 3500 Cummins HD Diesel Extreme Towing Review - YouTube
Monster5601
Platinum Member
Exactly. I want a tug that can pull the weight, up the roads I travel, holding the speed limit, use the least amount of fuel, and offer reliability. I am not in the habit of drag racing up hills pulling tonnage.
Monster5601
Platinum Member
I hate these tests sometimes because they are never equal. The 3500 comparison, the GM was pulling 1K more weight than the other two. The second link, Ford brought an F450 to compete with the 3500s, I know why too, their one ton doesn't have the payload that compares to the other two offerings.
The HD segment has had a massive "arms race" to get top dog horsepower & acceleration in their units; fortunately they've kept up on the torque too, which is what really matters for the segment.
Unbelievable how the stats on this segment have grown in the past decade.
GM & Dodge have made concerted efforts to get into the fleet niche, and have made some headway.
Honestly, as competitive as the "HD arms race" has been, the least capable stats today blow away the top dog from a decade ago...
I don't honestly care how fast I can tow up a sustained 6% grade, but that I can do it comfortably, or that I can do the 1/4 mile in 16 seconds, but that the truck pulls well at any weight comfortably, or that I can stop in 65 feet, but that it stops well consistently. If I plan on maxxing out the capabilities, I've gone too small and need a heavier truck.
I guess what I'm saying is you can't really go wrong today: if you found a one ton satisfactory ten years ago, any producer will have a unit that exceeds those expectations... as far as where each is today (which is due to change), top dog statistics will shift as each manufacturer puts their best (new) foot forward. Buy what you like, in 5 years it'll be surpassed.
I plow snow, so anyone who puts out a straight front axle is in the running for me... Ford is the only one I've found, and it just seems to be too much strain over time for independent suspension & multiple pieces weaving the front together to hold up, no matter how nice the ride is, for me to risk it.
If snow plowing was not one of the primary truck uses, my options would be huge, and creature comforts might get a chance to weigh in, but my options end at the front axle.
Unbelievable how the stats on this segment have grown in the past decade.
GM & Dodge have made concerted efforts to get into the fleet niche, and have made some headway.
Honestly, as competitive as the "HD arms race" has been, the least capable stats today blow away the top dog from a decade ago...
I don't honestly care how fast I can tow up a sustained 6% grade, but that I can do it comfortably, or that I can do the 1/4 mile in 16 seconds, but that the truck pulls well at any weight comfortably, or that I can stop in 65 feet, but that it stops well consistently. If I plan on maxxing out the capabilities, I've gone too small and need a heavier truck.
I guess what I'm saying is you can't really go wrong today: if you found a one ton satisfactory ten years ago, any producer will have a unit that exceeds those expectations... as far as where each is today (which is due to change), top dog statistics will shift as each manufacturer puts their best (new) foot forward. Buy what you like, in 5 years it'll be surpassed.
I plow snow, so anyone who puts out a straight front axle is in the running for me... Ford is the only one I've found, and it just seems to be too much strain over time for independent suspension & multiple pieces weaving the front together to hold up, no matter how nice the ride is, for me to risk it.
If snow plowing was not one of the primary truck uses, my options would be huge, and creature comforts might get a chance to weigh in, but my options end at the front axle.
jayman30
Bronze Member
I'm sure they would have brought a RAM 4500, but those are only available in Cab and Chassis configurations. But I agree that hooking up a slightly heaver RV to the least powerful truck was unfair in the first video.
HHR
Platinum Member
I think the original author of this thread was considering gas 3/4 tons, but the conversation has shifted to diesel a bit. Not sure if anyone has seen this 6.4L Hemi test, but it appears that the the powertrain works better on paper than at altitude under load. I can't believe the 8 year old 6.0L design from Chevy still beats it.
Dodge:http://youtu.be/BeWhXy_ciuM
Chevy:http://youtu.be/YQ8fn3PvNhQ
Dodge:http://youtu.be/BeWhXy_ciuM
Chevy:http://youtu.be/YQ8fn3PvNhQ
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