Changing engine oil... Amsoil

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The manual recommends changing the engine oil out at 250hrs along with filter. I'm considering going ahead and changing it out to the Amsoil 15W40 now... with less than 10hrs. I don't want to wait 250hrs or a year before I do this... I'd rather have the better oil in there now. The manual says it holds 2.5 gallons.

Has anyone else done this? Is it okay to leave the current oil filter on or should I change it too, and if so, to what brand?

Thanks!
 
   / Changing engine oil... Amsoil #2  
Just a thought. I might would wait until about 20-25 hours to make sure you get the majority of the initial manufacturing contaminents out of the engine. Then change the oil and filter and enjoy for the next year or 250 hours which ever comes first.....

Sorry, don't kow anything about the filters. Hoping to maybe learn soon, seriously considering the 6000. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
   / Changing engine oil... Amsoil
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That sounds like good advice. Thanks!

I have to change out the transmission oil at 50 hours so I may just do it all then.
 
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I've got a 6000. The operators manual says change at 50 hours. I changed the oil/filiter at 23 hours and then again at 50couple. Every 100 hours after that wilh filter on alternate changes. I use Chevron Delo 400 15-40. If you are going to use synthetic, you need to run-in the rings until they are well seated or you could be using a lot oil later. Just my observation. These engines do not turn up a bunch of rpms, and are somewhat "cold blooded" (takes a while to get up to rated temps). I thought about using syns at first but if you change oil regularly, you will just be spending more....Just my opinion. BobG in VA
 
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I wonder why the difference in the 6000 and 6500? First oil change on the 6500 is clearly 250hrs in my manual. I left my manual at the office but I think it is for the 5500, 6000, and 6500. I'll double check that tomorrow. Reckon they've changed something lately?

I'm not too mechanically bright Bob... what do you mean by "run-in the rings until they are well seated"???

I don't know that I'll put 250hrs per year on mine so I suspect I'll just be changing the oil annually.
 
   / Changing engine oil... Amsoil #6  
Run-in on the rings means that they have to "seat" well against the walls of the cylinder sleaves. This helps to create and maintain the compression that the diesel runs on. The oil "splashes" up or is pumped up under the pistons and splashes out of the oil ring onto the interior of the sleeve, thereby lubing it. Using synthetics in effect creates a barrier between the metal parts (ie. piston and sleeve). If the piston rings have not "seated" well against the sleeve wall, excess oil consumption can occur. I used Mobil 1 15-50 in my air cooled motorcycle, but not till I had 2500 miles on the engine. Never had to add any oil between changes and never had a puff of blue smoke. To my knowledge, all reciprical engines are the same when oil rings are employed. BobG in VA
 
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On page 48 in my manual on the right side bottom right over a picture of the oil fill there is a " note" says first change at 50 hrs then 250.

I think even if the hrs were low I would change oil more than once per year.

Will
 
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What's the bottom line Bob... how many hours would you recommend I wait?


Okay... my manual Ref. No.: 00-4WDOM/JUN-05 (I'm assuming this is dated June 2005)

It is the Operator's Manual for the '00' Series 4WD 4500/5500/6000/6500...

Pages 48-49 is Pneumatic Tires...

On page 63 under "Oil Change" it states "Change engine oil after every 250 hrs. of operation." At the bottom of the page it does however have: "Note: Engine oil and filter element must be changed after initial 50hrs of operation in a new tractor or whenever major overhaul of engine is carried out and subsequently after every 250hrs respectively."

Pages 78-79 show Routine Service Schedule... under Engine/Change Oil and Filter Element there is no dot until 250hrs and then 500hrs/750hrs/1000hrs (and in the column Since then "Every 250hrs") It shows nothing about the 50hrs there.
 
   / Changing engine oil... Amsoil #9  
the 50 hour time period is to clean out the manufacturing materials. After that, the 250 hr period is for oil quality and filter life.
 
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Let your rings wear in to the cylinders first, at least 100 hrs.

GLaWall
Your Mahindra Tractor Dealer
Batavia, NY
 

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