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<font color="blue">3 sizes that fit from Sub-Compacts to full size utility tractors </font>
Spreader CCM Fertilizer Spreaders
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<font color="blue">3 sizes that fit from Sub-Compacts to full size utility tractors </font>
Henro
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The other day I was at my dealers and unfortunately he was not around...
I browsed a bit, and noticed a spreader that was similar to the CCM one. I wanted it. I did not ask how much since the "how much guy" was not there...
After coming home I did some thinking and checking around and sort of got turned on by the Herd M-96. I think I am going to buy the herd after I get back from a road trip this summer.
Anyway, nothing is cast in stone until after the purchase is made. I know the CCM spreader is cheaper in the size I want. Is it better than the M-96? Why? Is the M-96 better? Why?
In the end are they about the same?
Grateful for any facts or opinions... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I browsed a bit, and noticed a spreader that was similar to the CCM one. I wanted it. I did not ask how much since the "how much guy" was not there...
After coming home I did some thinking and checking around and sort of got turned on by the Herd M-96. I think I am going to buy the herd after I get back from a road trip this summer.
Anyway, nothing is cast in stone until after the purchase is made. I know the CCM spreader is cheaper in the size I want. Is it better than the M-96? Why? Is the M-96 better? Why?
In the end are they about the same?
Grateful for any facts or opinions... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Bob_Skurka
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In the end are they about the same?
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As a new Herd M96 owner let me tell you my observations about spreaders. I looked last year for a high quality unit, never actually found one built to the standards I was searching for. But to directly answer your question, yes they are all about the same. They all do one thing.
Now I'm not certain about what Mark at CCM is selling, but every one of the smaller CUT sized 'cone' type spreaders I looked at was imported. Every one of them used stamped steel or light weight sheet steel for the rotating mechanisms/spreader plates. As that style unit is so popular, I suspect they must be pretty good. I know the prices seem to be about $50 to $75 less than the Herd brand units. One thing I do know is that Mark and CCM are a great resource here at TBN and my dealings with Mark on purchases have been absolutely perfect. He is a great guy and I suspect his product is also.
For people who put a value on American made products, the Herd spreaders are made in Indiana. The tub is galvenized steel and to be honest I have no idea if that is more or less durable than painted steel or powder coated steel. The bottom of the spreader is heavy cast metal, as is the spreader fan unit. The design is pretty simple, the construction is pretty basic, but the unit looks and so far performs very nicely. I would say that I think the Herd unit is a step up in design and quality from the imported products, but again that step up is something that comes at an added $50 to $75 price tag. So you are paying for quality and I think you are getting it.
Here is a link to a photo of my Herd spreader: Herd M-96
In the end are they about the same?
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As a new Herd M96 owner let me tell you my observations about spreaders. I looked last year for a high quality unit, never actually found one built to the standards I was searching for. But to directly answer your question, yes they are all about the same. They all do one thing.
Now I'm not certain about what Mark at CCM is selling, but every one of the smaller CUT sized 'cone' type spreaders I looked at was imported. Every one of them used stamped steel or light weight sheet steel for the rotating mechanisms/spreader plates. As that style unit is so popular, I suspect they must be pretty good. I know the prices seem to be about $50 to $75 less than the Herd brand units. One thing I do know is that Mark and CCM are a great resource here at TBN and my dealings with Mark on purchases have been absolutely perfect. He is a great guy and I suspect his product is also.
For people who put a value on American made products, the Herd spreaders are made in Indiana. The tub is galvenized steel and to be honest I have no idea if that is more or less durable than painted steel or powder coated steel. The bottom of the spreader is heavy cast metal, as is the spreader fan unit. The design is pretty simple, the construction is pretty basic, but the unit looks and so far performs very nicely. I would say that I think the Herd unit is a step up in design and quality from the imported products, but again that step up is something that comes at an added $50 to $75 price tag. So you are paying for quality and I think you are getting it.
Here is a link to a photo of my Herd spreader: Herd M-96
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HayDR
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Bob_Skurka,
Not all of us have the same tractors or drive the same model of auto. CCM is about offering great products at great prices. We sell fertilizer spreaders from $275 to $10,000. They all work well but in different applications and situations. Most home owners use a fertilizer spreader 1-2 times a year. I personally have a metal cone spreader purchased in 1990. What is a great value for one customer may just be a average value for the next customer. Fertilizer Spreaders do not involve rocket science technology. The same basic designs have been around 50 years. Bob, the fertilizer spreader you purchased is a quality product.
Not all of us have the same tractors or drive the same model of auto. CCM is about offering great products at great prices. We sell fertilizer spreaders from $275 to $10,000. They all work well but in different applications and situations. Most home owners use a fertilizer spreader 1-2 times a year. I personally have a metal cone spreader purchased in 1990. What is a great value for one customer may just be a average value for the next customer. Fertilizer Spreaders do not involve rocket science technology. The same basic designs have been around 50 years. Bob, the fertilizer spreader you purchased is a quality product.
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Mark, I addressed part of Henro's question, but take a look at what I wrote about you & your product: <font color="green"> As that style unit is so popular, I suspect they must be pretty good. I know the prices seem to be about $50 to $75 less than the Herd brand units. One thing I do know is that Mark and CCM are a great resource here at TBN and my dealings with Mark on purchases have been absolutely perfect. He is a great guy and I suspect his product is also. </font> I think it boils down to the fact that I agreed that you offer great products at great prices. I simply addressed an alternative because it was brought up by a post that followed your post. Here is Henro's question, <font color="red"> I know the CCM spreader is cheaper in the size I want. Is it better than the M-96? Why? Is the M-96 better? Why? </font> I believe my answer was and is both fair and accurate.
Hopper/tank of this Herd spreader is a stamped / deep drawn hopper or welded? Not many companies are able to make deep drawing of such big sheet metals. Cosmo of Italy is one of rare companies who can do that. Most of others are welded hoppers. I am not saying there is a big advantage of weldless hopper over welded hopper, but the cost will be lower in weldless (deep drawn) spreaders. Galvanized steel sheet is a big plus for Herd spreader. Galvanization is much more expansive than paint.
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The Herd spreader has a welded seam.
It is good to hear that the galvenized coating is going to be durable, I was unsure of that compared to powder coat. I was hoping it was going to be that way.
What I really wanted, and have not found (at least on the smaller PTO drivin units) is a heavily made stainless steel spinner assembly and gate assembly. To my logic solid, thick stainless would be better than any sort of coating on mild steel.
I do like the fact that the units like CCMs have a seamless hopper design and think that is an advantage as it should make flowing easier with less resistance.
It is good to hear that the galvenized coating is going to be durable, I was unsure of that compared to powder coat. I was hoping it was going to be that way.
What I really wanted, and have not found (at least on the smaller PTO drivin units) is a heavily made stainless steel spinner assembly and gate assembly. To my logic solid, thick stainless would be better than any sort of coating on mild steel.
I do like the fact that the units like CCMs have a seamless hopper design and think that is an advantage as it should make flowing easier with less resistance.
Galvanized coating of such big items is done by hot dip coating method which gives thicker galvanize and this will make the spreader metal more durable. Yes, stainless steel would be better, but its price will be much more. In my opinion, advantage of seamless hopper is not in the easier flow resistence (smoother welds can be made today). Real advantage of seamless hopper is in the "production" cost (no weld and faster production per hour.) CCM hopper doesn't look like seamless.
From my experience many things tend to rust at the welds, I doubt this would be an issue with a galvanized unit.
Nomad in another thread you mentioned a 'ridger'. Who made the implement you posted that picture of? Just looking for options as locally only discs seem to be available.
Nomad in another thread you mentioned a 'ridger'. Who made the implement you posted that picture of? Just looking for options as locally only discs seem to be available.
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Bob, The biggest difference in Herd and the tub/funnel seeders that we dealers offer, is that the Herd is a Precision seeder capable of cutting the flow rate on white clover down to 1-2 lb per acre---The "drip rate" thru the gates on a tub seeder will be more that that--Both type seeders have thier applications--We also offer the "First Choice" Poly seerer/spreader with stainless fan and blades (shown in picture)--Ken Sweet
Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *New and Used implements for Foodplot preparation*
Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *New and Used implements for Foodplot preparation*
