Cattle

   / Cattle #153  
Broke Farmer John, respectfully, how many of your Jersey steer carcasses will USDA grade Prime or Choice or Yield grade 1 or 2?
 
   / Cattle #154  
So when I hear someone took 18-20 month old animal to 1600lbs plus, I know that animal didn稚 move for most of its life, was given hormones and fed a high energy feed.

Right, and who wants to eat THAT? Give me grass fed.
 
   / Cattle #155  
Right, and who wants to eat THAT? Give me grass fed.

A few years ago there was a restaurant in The Woodlands, Tx where you could order a plate with two strips on it. One grass fed and one grain fed. Eating them side by side like that I definitely preferred the grain fed for flavor and tenderness. Although both were very good as they should have been for the price.
 
   / Cattle #156  
Broke Farmer John, respectfully, how many of your Jersey steer carcasses will USDA grade Prime or Choice or Yield grade 1 or 2?

I have never graded my cattle, prob never will being how small my Hobby farm is. I know nothing of the grading process. I just drop my cattle off to the butcher alive and pick up the meat about 3 weeks later. Then store the quarter, half of whole till whom ever bought it can pick it up.
 
   / Cattle #157  
The USDA Grades are a composite of factors that affect palatability(tenderness, juiciness, flavor) all things the consumer wants. These factors include maturity, firmness, texture, color of lean, amount and location of marbling within lean. It is a way to side by side objectively compare carcasses. I to sell "freezer" beef or "on the hoof". I also sell "package" beef. To do so it must be "USDA inspected" and likewise graded. I charge more for higher grades because it is better.
 
   / Cattle #158  
the first steer I bought was a 4H project, from a customer's son at the county fair (he took two, the other won grand champion that year). VERY specific rules regarding hormones, what they're fed and how fast they can gain weight.
I belive the qtr was 224 lbs wrapped/frozen to me.
The next 2 qtrs I bought were from another customer of mine, cheaper, it's their business, I believe they were just about 200lb..one may have been about 190.

Got a qtr 2 months ago, from a coworker's husband, he's been raising beef for 44 years, 214lb qtr.

now unless they are ALL stuffing more meat in a 'quarter' to hit 200lb I'm assuming they are all about the same size critters at harvest. None are feed lot.

the first one was better than store bought beef, the next was better and the latest is the best beef I've ever had.

from what I gather, most here feed mostly grass and hay. I assume they get some grain...but not like in a feed lot.

Those cattle were given hormones (10% weight) and a heavy corn feed with little to no movement to get that big in that amount of time.

I raise my cattle mainly on grass and they don稚 gain nearly that fast. I buy the steer calves weaned off milk (3-5 months old) around 250-400lbs lbs. I keep them till 800-1000lb depending on the season and that takes me about 12-16 months. I知 also buying a jersey or jersey cross which don稚 grow as fast as an angus or beef cattle.

So when I hear someone took 18-20 month old animal to 1600lbs plus, I know that animal didn稚 move for most of its life, was given hormones and fed a high energy feed.
 
   / Cattle #159  
Many organic foods are very competitive (or at least reasonable) in price. Organic beef in my area is not. Natural (if you can believe that) no so bad. I try to only buy organic produce of what I do not grow.

Organic can include chemicals...

I prefer 'sustainable' over organic.

To have 'organic meat' one needs to feed 'orgainic feed'...which is twice the price (for chickens/turkeys anyway). We do some eggs can't say 'organic' unless it's ALL organic - their feed too. "Free Range" was what we did, now due to excessive losses it's "cage free"...

This is not exactly on topic, but this post has meandered a bit, so likely it is okay to post this here. Anyway, if anyone wants a reason to grow and consume their own beef, read The Omnivore's Dilemma. Even if it does not make you a vegetarian (I am not) it will cause you to buy only organic, or grass fed beef.


There are a lot of good documentrairs - Food Inc is one of the best. Makes yo uwant to grow your own and buy local for sure.

We did turkey's last year - cost to buy the chicks, feed, harvest - $2.80 a lb for the frozen results. Ouch. We did keep them too long (110lb meat from 4 birds..the one tom was 46 lbs hanging weight..the hens were 24 ish each). Would likely have had better feed return had we culled earlier - live and learn!

Gonna try meat chickens this coming spring.

Can't say the turkey tasted any different than a 69c butterball from walmart...
 
   / Cattle #160  
Got the February edition of the Gulf Coast Cattleman yesterday.

Lots of good information.

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