case Ih 585 loss of power and blowing black smoke.

[biker4jc]

I have a friend with a 580E, and his brake cylinders are ceased. You can get them engaged but they won't release. I'm wondering if this is a common problem on the 580 series Case tractors?

 

[davis criddle]

well I changed the hydraulic filter, bled the brakes today. Went bush hogging about an hr into it and the same old same old. I dont know what to do now! One thing I did notice was the hydraulic fluid that drained out when I pulled the filter housing off looked like crap(it was real dark and dirty). The fluid on my dipstick is nice and clean looking. Thought that was a little odd, really dont know if it matters.
The tractor is not running hot
all filters and fluids good
?????I dont have a clue what to try next????
anyone got a idea please let me know.
thank you,
davis

 

[Dr Dave]

Maybe the brake cylinders are not releasing all the way, and the longer it is used, the brakes heat up and expand. When this happens push in the clutch, does tractor roll some or stop like brakes are aplied?

 

[davis criddle]

It comes to a stop. If that is true, what would be the fix?
and thank you for your reply!
davis

 

[biker4jc]

It would seem to me there are two possible paths to take here. First, find the component in the brake system that is ceased, master cylinder, or slave cylinders and replace them. That's a fairly substantial job. Or you could do what my friend has done with his 580, never go fast enough to need the brakes, or use drag the bucket to get stopped, and never tear into the brakes. His tractor is used daily, and for more than 10 years now the brakes have been ceased. I have looked at fixing those brakes ......... and suggested that he just drag the bucket.

 

[davis criddle]

It would seem to me there are two possible paths to take here. First, find the component in the brake system that is ceased, master cylinder, or slave cylinders and replace them. That's a fairly substantial job. Or you could do what my friend has done with his 580, never go fast enough to need the brakes, or use drag the bucket to get stopped, and never tear into the brakes. His tractor is used daily, and for more than 10 years now the brakes have been ceased. I have looked at fixing those brakes ......... and suggested that he just drag the bucket.

I never really use the brakes anyways, mine seem to be locking up without use anyways. happen to know how I could diconnect them, somehow.

 

[biker4jc]

From what I remember my friend just drives his a little till the pads wear and then doesn't use them ....... but I'm no tractor expert.

 

[Lenarguy]

If you are still having the problem, you might back-off the nut that adjust the brake pedals. If adjusted to tight it will lock-up exactly as you said. I believe it is right under/near the master cylinder and I would suggest using a ratcheting box end wrench. I hope this helps.

 

[shona13]

G'Day biker4jc.
I have had a 680- c in for repair with the same problem ,it was the master cylinder the seals in the cylinder were unserviceable and when the brake pedal was pushed some of the brake fluid would not return to the master cylinder and after using the brakes a few times the brakes were staying on ,the repair did not cost that much and was reasonably easy to do.

this may help.
Regards.
Hutch.

 

[Lenarguy]

I never really use the brakes anyways, mine seem to be locking up without use anyways. happen to know how I could diconnect them, somehow.

Have you made any progress with the brakes?