Hay Dude
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- Challenger MT655E, Massey Ferguson 7495, Challenger MT535B, Krone 4x4 XC baler, (2) Kubota ZD331’s, 2020 Ram 5500 Cummins 4x4, IH 7500 4x4 dump truck, Kaufman 35’ tandem 19 ton trailer, Deere CX-15, Pottinger Hay mowers
My Case-IH is rated at 270 engine HP. On the dyno it made 270 at the PTO! Which means it makes more like 300 engine HP.Left at 8 this morning and it is now 430 and I have been all over looking at Case and Kubota tractors. I went to three of them owned by my dealership. I will only buy from this dealership hence the reason I only went to these. I drove a 100c with the 24 speed that had huge tires on it that were already loaded. Tractor was under powered. It also had many things I did not need that I had to rule out. I went to drive the two that I really wanted to compare. The 110c and the 24 speed m5-111. I had them side by side. The Kubota won in some categories and lost in some. Fit and finish went to the Case. Layout went to the Kubota. Loader capacity went Kubota. You guys know I said I did not care for the m5 specs for power and torque. The dealership that had them both let me take them down the road and pull a big hill. I was finally going to get to test the power. The Case won hands down. Both tractors are rated approx 110 hp but they are no where near equal on torque. I drove the Kubota first and being it was a 24 speed I hit the splitter once and it died anyway. I let it lug until I had to stop and start over with a down shift. I went back and go the Case. The Case went up and over the hill with no down shifts. It lugged down some but pulled it quite well. That pretty much did it for me. I am buying a tractor for the power and the Case won this battle. In my line of work everyone runs a Kubota. I really figured that was where I would end up as the layout is very nice. I would complain everytime I ran out of power with it. I put an offer on the Case and now we go from here.
In almost every case, Case-IH “under rates” their engines. Kubota tends to rate their engines closer to max HP.
Note below Case-IH rates my tractor at 235 PTO HP and 270 Engine HP. In testing, it tractor data testing, it also made 270HP at the PTO. I found this to be pretty common with several other Case-IH models.
Pretty cool for those who do their research.
Dont get me wrong, I like my 2 Kubota farm tractors a lot. However, for a 6.1L engine, they are not powerhouses. They are good, reliable strong engines and they are well built.
My M135X also exceeded claimed PTO HP by a small margin, which is good, but Case-IH REALLY over does it on the HP.