cancer head

[bindian]

Mike,
Just found this thread. You and your family is in my prayers.
hugs, Brandi

 

[Bwana64]

Mike,
Best wishes to you. Good choice with MD Anderson. By the way, I live in Houston and have a ranch up near Winchester, just around the corner from you in Paige.
Tom

 

[mikim]

Bwana -- my wife grew up and her dad still owns a place between indian lake and greasy bend on 153. (I'm not a fan of Murphy's)
My office (retired from) is in Dickinson & the wife worked downtown and also west of loop 8 on Dairy Ashford.

All ---thank you all for all the good wishes and prayers -- the support really helps --thank u.

 

[BobsMassey]

Mike I'm new here but as a survivor myself all I can say is beat it !!!! Don't let it win ! You can and will survive!! Just keep that positive attitude and best of luck and you'll be in my prayers ! I was diagnosed 7 years ago and went thru surgery, chemo, and a bunch of biopsy's the last was 4 spots in my throat, all was ok!! So I feel that the good die young so I'm going to live forever !!!!!

 

[daugen]

Mike,
you have a giant "extended family" here pulling for you. Just keep having fun each day, don't let your
disease/health define you and just keep doing what you want to just as long as you can.
God Bless you.
And focus on getting "fixed" and back on your tractor.

Many of us have personally gone through what you are going through, or have family members with cancer,
and usually there is a happy ending. Keep your eye on the prize, life itself, and make each day count.
It's all any of us can do. My wife was given a year over a year ago, and we are still having fun. And deeply in love.
Now make sure the balloons in your room have little tractors on them!
DA

no sweating the small stuff :thumbsup:

 

[crackerjack222]

Mike, sorry to hear of your diagnosis but it can be beat. My wife had a tumor in her tongue four years ago, wont go into the details of her treatment but can offer some advice based on "been there done that".

Do surgery first. An oncologist will likely say to do chemo then radiation then surgery as a last resort. Bad advice, IMHO.
Be very reluctant to let them do radiation on or around your mouth. The side/after effects can be very bad and last forever. Chemo is no picnic, but they have drugs to combat the side effects. Don't wait any longer than absolutely necessary to have the surgery. It may have some unpleasant side effects but probably can't be avoided.
Dont get caught up in or place faith in "alternative" cures.

We are in Seguin, had chemo and radiation in Austin and surgery at UTHSC in San Antonio. The ENT guy we went to (still doing follow up with him) is the head of UTHSC Otolaryngology dept. Good Dr.

 

[Oldtink]

Hi Mike, I too have walked in those shoes and I can tell you've got the positive attitude to win the fight. My prayers are with you and your family. By all means talk about it. You've got some of the best doctors in the world there in Texas too and thats a BIG plus right now.
Keep talking to your friends here. We got the hammer down and pullen for you.

 

[texasjohn]

We're pulling for you!

 

[txdon]

I'm glad you e-mailed me a few days ago I totally missed this thread. Anything else that I come across from my sources on cancer and diet I'll post in this thread so others can benefit also. Your new diet and mine will be similar. A diet with less meat of course, protein should be plant based as the American Cancer Society suggest.
Since I quite eating meat and animal products my blood protein level has remained perfect - so don't think you will be malnourished by not eating meat. A wide variety of vegetables, whole grains, fruits and greens are readily available and are filled with all those trace vitamins and minerals that supplements do not provide. Don't worry about taste, your tastebuds will change.

Ask for reference links whenever a specific product is listed to find the mechanism, research, and studies behind it's cancer curing abilities.
Some studies with food have only been studied on specific forms of cancer.
At the hospital you should have access to a nutritionist, be ready with a ton of questions.
If the nutritionist is hesitant about a plant-based diet and has concerns about protein - probably find another.

I'm always looking into the new studies that involve heart disease, I'll start looking at the Cancer ones also.
After surgery, anything you don't feel like doing DO NOT HESITATE to call me.
Our prayers are with you.

This is not the best link but one I found quickly. I know you already know this but there are probably lot's of other TBN people in your same situation.
"The American Cancer Society suggests plant-based protein sources, such as legumes, in place of meat at least several times per week. Legumes can also help you keep your saturated fat and cholesterol intake down, which can help lower your risk for heart disease and certain forms of cancer."

Read more: Food For A Cancer Patient | LIVESTRONG.COM

 

[ddmoit]

I would stay away from grains of any kind. Too easily turned into sugar and thus, cancer food.

 

[Wilky]

Just came on this thread. This is a link I received from a friend who is going through prostate cancer treatment. It seems to have a lot of information. Aboutcancer.com. My prayers are with you

 

[txdon]

I would stay away from grains of any kind. Too easily turned into sugar and thus, cancer food.

ddmoit, Do you have any medical resource links about that?

"All the evidence points to a low-fat, high-fiber diet that includes a variety of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and beans, as being the best for cancer prevention. Not surprisingly, vegetarians, whose diets easily meet these requirements, are at the lowest risk for cancer. Vegetarians have about half the cancer risk of meat-eaters.11

Vegetarians have higher blood levels of beta-carotene. They consume more vitamin C, beta-carotene, indoles, and fiber than meat-eaters. Vegetarians also have stronger immune systems."

http://www.pcrm.org/search/?cid=128

 

[brin]

ddmoit, Do you have any medical resource links about that?

Don - I googled that Paleo diet Eddie posted about today...and it mentioned not to eat any grains for the same reason....shocked me and I am going to do some more research...please share if you find anything out...even whole wheat is bad due to their genetic manipulation of it and how it affects our bodies...I believe this so far..Here is one link I found ...see what you think...The Paleo Diet | Dr. Loren Cordain, Founder of the Paleo Diet Movement

 

[txdon]

Brin, are they assuming the apemen never had cancer? I'd be scared to bet my life on an assumption. What was their lifespan? Did they get old enough to even get our diseases? These question have to be answered or I really get turned off when it appears to be a fad diet, like the atkins diet was.

Mike I would not recommend the Paleo Diet
Read this also - Paleo Diet Is Uncivilized (and Unhealthy and Untrue): McDougall Newsletter - June 2012

 

[ddmoit]

Obviously the Paleo crowd and the vegans are at loggerheads. I'm with the Paleo crowd and am much healthier for it. The average caveman probably did not live that long, but averages can be deceiving. The ones that didn't die during early childhood, break a leg, or get eaten by another predator lived long and healthy lives. Humans can subsist on very poor diets. We did not evolve to be vegans or eat grains.

 

[txdon]

Look at the studies. Where is the Paleo research on cancer???? Don't put peoples lives in danger.

Every link on this link's page is backed by research:
PCRM | Diet and Cancer Research

"A cancer prevention diet is one that is high in fiber, low in fat (especially animal fat), and includes generous portions of fruits and vegetables. It also minimizes or excludes alcohol. The best diets are pure vegetarian diets.

1. Kritchevsky D. Diet, nutrition, and cancer: the role of fiber. Cancer. 1986;58:1830-1836.
2. Risch HA, Jain M, Choi NW, et al. Dietary factors and the incidence of cancer of the stomach. Am J Epidemiol. 1985;122:947-59.
3. Lubin F, Wax Y, Modan B, et al. Role of fat, animal protein and dietary fiber in breast cancer etiology: a case control study. J Natl Cancer Inst. 1986;77:605-12.
4. Goldin BR, Adlercreutz H, Gorbach SL, et al. Estrogen excretion patterns and plasma levels in vegetarian and omnivorous women. N Engl J Med. 1982;307:1542-7.
5. Lan HW, Carpenter JT. Breast cancer: incidence, nutritional concerns, and treatment approaches. J Am Diet Assoc. 1987;87:765-9.
6. Minowa M, Bingham S, Cummings JH. Dietary fiber intake in Japan. Human Nutr Appl Nutr. 1983;37A:113-9.
7. Wynder EL, Rose DP, Cohen LA. Diet and breast cancer in causation and therapy. Cancer. 1986;58:1804-13.
8. Bingham SA. Meat, starch, and non-starch polysaccharides and bowel cancer. Am J Clin. Nutr 1988;48:762-7.
9. Rose DP, Boyar AP, Wynder EL. International comparisons of mortality rates for cancer of the breast, ovary, prostate, and colon, and per capita food consumption. Cancer. 1986;58:2363-71.
10. Breslow NE, Enstrom JE. Geographic correlations between cancer mortality rates and alcohol-tobacco consumption in the United States. J Natl Cancer Inst. 1974;53:631-9.
11. Phillips RL. Role of lifestyle and dietary habits in risk of cancer among Seventh-day Adventists. Cancer Res. 1975;35(Suppl):3513-22.
12. Malter M. Natural killer cells, vitamins, and other blood components of vegetarian and omnivorous men. Nutr and Cancer. 1989;12:271-8."

 

[txdon]

Ddmoit, did you have cancer or is it just another weight diet for you? How much weight have you lost and for how long?

A non vegan source:

A Register Dietitian has nothing good to say about the Paleo Diet because there is no research behind it.

Lisa Sassoon, a registered dietitian and assistant clinical professor of nutrition at NYU, agrees. "There's no real research behind it either. And it eliminates things that do have research behind them: grains, beans and low-fat dairy."
Paleo Diet: Healthy Or A Hoax?

 

[mikim]

So....went to MDA thurs & fri and saw 1. the surgeon who will be my team lead Dr. and the 2. dentist. On Mon we see the 3. chemo man and the 4. radiologist. On Thurs they have a team meeting that turns out the plan of attack for the patients. According to the surgeon the plan for me will likely be radiation then chemo if required and hopefully no surgery at all. The radiation will cause significant damage to my jaw, inside neck tissues, etc. That's why the dentist gets involved. Seems I will need to take special care and special treatments on my teeth every night forever. They will fit me with trays that I then fill with fluoride cream and soak for 10 minutes each night. The whole thing is that the radiation will kill some blood vessels that feed the jawbone and if I don't take special care of my mouth I could lose the jawbone. I will also be living with a water bottle in my hand from now on cause 1/2 my saliva glands will be gone that will contribute to "dry mouth" that then also can cause jawbone death. After they meet on Thurs we will get "the plan" and the schedule, but typically the radiation treatments are 1 hr long, 5 days a week for 6 weeks. Guess I'll be living with my son in Houston for 6 weeks........gonna have to find a break in there somewhere for both of us.

 

[creekbend]

So....went to MDA thurs & fri and saw 1. the surgeon who will be my team lead Dr. and the 2. dentist. On Mon we see the 3. chemo man and the 4. radiologist. On Thurs they have a team meeting that turns out the plan of attack for the patients. According to the surgeon the plan for me will likely be radiation then chemo if required and hopefully no surgery at all. The radiation will cause significant damage to my jaw, inside neck tissues, etc. That's why the dentist gets involved. Seems I will need to take special care and special treatments on my teeth every night forever. They will fit me with trays that I then fill with fluoride cream and soak for 10 minutes each night. The whole thing is that the radiation will kill some blood vessels that feed the jawbone and if I don't take special care of my mouth I could lose the jawbone. I will also be living with a water bottle in my hand from now on cause 1/2 my saliva glands will be gone that will contribute to "dry mouth" that then also can cause jawbone death. After they meet on Thurs we will get "the plan" and the schedule, but typically the radiation treatments are 1 hr long, 5 days a week for 6 weeks. Guess I'll be living with my son in Houston for 6 weeks........gonna have to find a break in there somewhere for both of us.

Here's wishing YOU the very best. Please stay strong.

 

[sam5570]

Mikim i wish you the best and will be praying for you.