Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers?

   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #1  

JWK1

Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2008
Messages
31
Location
central Maine
Tractor
unknown
I've got some acreage in central Maine and I want to start building next year, and I want to do as much as I can myself. I'm debating whether to build on cement piers or go with an insulated slab. Both have pros and cons for building.

What this post is all about is whether one of the one ton machines are capable. For the piers, I would need to go down somewhere between 4 and 5 feet. I figure at least a foot of dirt is going to be scraped away first, so the mini would only have to go 4 feet down at the most. One of my neighbors up there actually spent all summer a few years ago digging the holes by hand himself. I'm almost 70. I don't want to do that and I don't want to spend that much time. I hope to have the place at least dried in by snow time, so like a year from now.

Now the slab is something I know a lot less about. I would need to do more research to see what I would need to do. I know the basics for the ground prep.

Oh, and then there is the septic. That hole for the tank might be a bit much for a one ton? I see the leech field as no problem.

There is no question that the machine would come in incredibly handy after the house building ground work is done. The land is undeveloped and had some cedar logging done about 20 years ago, so there is a lot of clean up to do for putting in gardens, fruit trees, just having nice areas, etc. However, for the sake of this post, my ultimate concern is strictly cost effectiveness. I can get a machine from someone in Ellsworth, Maine who is advertising upgrades on a "1.2T", whatever that really means. The important bits are upgraded lower chassis (longer and wider), hydraulic thumb, ripper, rake, and counter weight. Just under $8K for a new machine. I'm using it as a reference point for what is out there.

There is also no question in my mind that it will pay for itself compared to hiring out. Plus, I will do it the way I want it done, not the way the excavator thought it should be done. That's already happened with the driveway I had put in. Don't want to do that again.

Do you think this is realistic, or will I be under gunned? Thanks for any info and/or advice.
 
   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #2  
Of course it would eventually get the job done. Shovels used to be the only way. But a 1 ton is pretty small for the work. A bigger machine would be a lot better. For the septic you really need a bucket as wide as the leech field. Trying to dig a wide ditch with a narrow bucket doesn’t work well.
 
Last edited:
   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #3  
Check for stone!
 
   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #4  
One issue with any smaller machine is how far you can reach to dig. Sometimes it's hard to reposition the machine if you can't reach far enough from one position.

Cal G is totally right about stones. Large stones (or tree stumps) can be show stoppers for smaller machines.
 
   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #5  
One issue with any smaller machine is how far you can reach to dig. Sometimes it's hard to reposition the machine if you can't reach far enough from one position.

Cal G is totally right about stones. Large stones (or tree stumps) can be show stoppers for smaller machines.

Where I live you don’t have to check you can just assume it’s there. Maybe 50 ton excavators with rippers can break bedrock but it’s pretty much a showstoppers for any machine.
IMG_8929.JPG
 
   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #6  
My friend used his BX series Kubota back hoe to dig for his self install septic on his land in Maine. Not sure how long it took to dig it out. Passed inspection so he did something right. Point is it’s a smaller digger as well so it’s possible , hopefully no big rocks or ledge.
 
   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #7  
...

There is also no question in my mind that it will pay for itself compared to hiring out. Plus, I will do it the way I want it done, not the way the excavator thought it should be done. That's already happened with the driveway I had put in. Don't want to do that again.

Do you think this is realistic, or will I be under gunned? Thanks for any info and/or advice.
I understand wanting to do it yourself. I also own a 1-ton mini ex bought last August. Based on my experience I would say it was unrealistic for someone at age 70 to master operating one of these good enough to accomplish what you are asking of it unless you have a background in machine operation. Even a younger more experienced machine operator could find the mini insufficient to the task.

In good soft soil without large roots and rocks it would be doable but hardly anyone has that. In my opinion you would not get back what you pay out versus a professional with proper equipment.

That said if you want a machine for occasional digging and trenching tasks the mini is handy to have about. The Chinese minis are light duty, cheaply built and have virtually no resale value. They are also incredibly slow to move around.
 
   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #8  
Here on my property I would never use my Kubota M6040 for house foundation or septic installation.

Two main reasons. Solid basaltic lava is close to the surface. My house footings sit on this bedrock - after three days of hydraulic jack hammering to level everything up. My septic tank ( concrete ) sits on a foot of sand that sits on this bedrock.

And - my lack of experience. When we came down from Alaska in 1982 I had never sat on nor operated a tractor. Any bravado or macho I might have had, at that time, certainly would not make up for lack of experience nor equipment availability.

--------- "A man has got to know his limitations"---------
 
Last edited:
   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #9  
I understand wanting to do it yourself. I also own a 1-ton mini ex bought last August. Based on my experience I would say it was unrealistic for someone at age 70 to master operating one of these good enough to accomplish what you are asking of it unless you have a background in machine operation. Even a younger more experienced machine operator could find the mini insufficient to the task.

In good soft soil without large roots and rocks it would be doable but hardly anyone has that. In my opinion you would not get back what you pay out versus a professional with proper equipment.

That said if you want a machine for occasional digging and trenching tasks the mini is handy to have about. The Chinese minis are light duty, cheaply built and have virtually no resale value. They are also incredibly slow to move around.

I’m not sure anyone ever masters a Chinese excavator. They’re very rough and jerky. But someone could get proficient on a good excavator probably within a day.
 
   / Can a mini do the ground work to build home - slab or piers? #10  
A one-ton mini ex in the rocks and boulders of central maine? Don't do it. You need a minimum 3 ton mini ex or ideally 5+. You'll want something that can pull an 18" or 24" wide bucket with power.
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

2016 CATEPRILLAR 336FL EXCAVATOR (A50458)
2016 CATEPRILLAR...
2005 towable water pump (A46684)
2005 towable water...
2018 Chevrolet Traverse AWD SUV (A46684)
2018 Chevrolet...
WHEEL LOADER BUCKET (A46683)
WHEEL LOADER...
Adams 5 ton Fertilizer Buggy / Wagon (A50397)
Adams 5 ton...
JOHN DEERE 333G SKID STEER (A50458)
JOHN DEERE 333G...
 
Top