Camping cabin?

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stumpfield

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We plan to build a couple of camping cabins for family and friends when they come visit our land. DW came up with the idea when she saw these cabins on a KOA camp ground. I have built several storage shed but for the cabin, I want the interior to be a little nicer. What type of siding material can I use that's good on both side? Any plans or kits for this type of cabin? I want to keep the size to be 10'x12' (or under 120 sqft) so I don't need a building permit. Your comments and ideas are welcome? Thanks.
 
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At 120 sq feet, your not leaving much room for anything but a bed and and a table, but it's doable. Before you start, how sure are you on not needing a permit for this sized building? What if you have electricity? In the Bay Area, where I'm from, sheds didn't need a permit either, unless they had power. Then it didn't matter what size the building was, you needed a permit and it had to be up to code. The way we worked around it was to run an extension cord to the building. It wasn't permanent power, so it didn't need a permit.

Do you need AC in it? A window unit is the cheapest and very effective in small rooms. Concrete works as the flooring and you never have to worry about it. If you want to stain, AVOID the quikrete brand stain sold at Lowes. It's just a paint that chips off and wears quickly.

Can you have a porch on it to increase your outdoor living area without increasing the square footage? Two natural wood posts from a local hardwood tree or cedar make very nice porch posts.

A small building needs lots of lighting. A window on two sides and a door with a window will really open it up. I'd leave one wall solid for hanging stuff and storage. I'd also look into a futon for sleeping. Having a place to sit and relax will be very limited in such a small building.

For interior siding, OSB is just about the cheapest thing out there. If you don't like the look of it, paneling gives you quite a bit of options, but even sheetrock won't cost you very much in that small of a space. How will you build the ceiling? if it's flat, then sheetrock or something light in color would work. If you vault the ceiling, which is what I'd do, then sanded bead board makes a really nice ceiling. You can put a beam across the middle and create an open truss that will really make it something special. Stain the sanded beadbard, which is about $20 a sheet, and you have a wood ceiling that looks like toungue a groove for a small fraction of the cost.

There was a thread over on Pondboss from a guy who used Hardi Lap Siding on his home and stained it. Pond Boss: Human habitat; dreaming out loud From a distance, it looks like real wood. In fact, when you look at the pictures, up close, it looks like real wood!!!!

I'm working on an experiment with regular Minwax wood stains on hardi boards to see how it lasts and looks. The pictures are from my test and are after three months outside. I don't know how the long term, year after year, results will be yet, but I'm very encouraged by what I see. The red oak is my favorite and what I plan to use when I build my cabins. I have one coat on there and the guy who did it used two coats on his home. I want to see what one does first, then I'll add a second coat to half of the already stained areas.

Have fun,
Eddie
 

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We got some ideas from these websites:

Tumbleweed Tiny House Company | Small House Plans, Floor Plans, Designs

TinyHouses

Small House Society - Resources

The Little House Plans Kit w/ Bonus Tools

To say the least, we have looked at a "couple" of cabins. We have not made a decision. I would like to do the same and build a three or four of them. Just use them mainly for sleeping and not having to pitch a tent. Need to just start one and see how it goes.

A friend just put up a "shed" barn, 16x24, (everyone needs a bed in the barn, right?). I will find out how much it cost him and scale mine much smaller. He plans to put a house there some time, but now he'll just enjoy his view.
 
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teg said:
We got some ideas from these websites: ...

Glad you posted those ... I got into them a couple of years ago ... REALLY neat stuff :D
 
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EddieWalker said:
At 120 sq feet, your not leaving much room for anything but a bed and and a table, but it's doable. Before you start, how sure are you on not needing a permit for this sized building? Eddie

Thanks Eddie, The hardi boards on your picture does look like real wood. If you didn't say it's hardi board, I would believe you it's real wood.

You are absolutely correct. Building of any size with power will require a permit. However, my land is in the middle of "no where" and is off-grid. So, there won't be any power except for totally self-contained 12v DC power for lighting. I have to keep it under 120 sqft if it's on a permanet foundation to be legal. If I build it on skids, I can go bigger because it's consider a portable building like a RV or storage container. Of course, it should not be living space and no one should live in these structures. That's the law but who's going to check and make sure no one is sleeping in these little cabins in the middle of nowhere... My nearest neighbor is 2 miles away. I'm fortunate that this is still a very rural county in California and the building code is very relax except in subdivisions. As far as they can remember, they never force anyone to tear down a building because it didn't have a permit. The common problem here is complaints from neighbors. Lots of people moved here from the bay area in recent years. They bought with them urban SF bay area cultures. They will call the sheriff when you they hear a gun shot or a barking dog. They will file complaints on anything doesn't fit their eyes or cause pain to their eyes....

I found a very nice cabin kit on ebay but the price is a little more than I want to spend plus getting it ship from Kentucky just doesn't sound feasible. I wonder if I can build something similar with material I can buy from the local lumber yard or home depot. My idea is to frame it with material that looks good on both the exterior and interior like 2x TG log siding but without the high cost of 2x TG log siding. I also want the interior space not lose 4" wall thickness.
 
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Id go hardypannel or T111 outside, and panneling on the inside.
 
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Have looked at prebuilt sheds that some stores carry? I have seen some wood constructed ones that would ideal for what you have in mind.
 
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I thought you were looking for for a siding material. If you are looking for a structural wall, several people have used the 4" landscaping timbers that have two flat sides. You can buy them at any home building center. Caulk between and spike them down. This would eliminate studding and be able to structurally support the roof and have a rustic interior. Having lived in a log home for 21 years and from experience, I would still recommend the Flood, stain/sealer for the outside.
 

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