Calling all dog behaviorists

   / Calling all dog behaviorists #21  
davitk,

What a great pal Cosmo is for your boy.... that's pretty cool that he can play b-ball!

I'm enjoying this topic as my wife and I were just discussing what parlor tricks we might want to teach our (now) 11-week old Australian Cattle dog (image attached) .
His best trick so far is to bother the heck out of our elderly black Lab and Chessie (both 14). We decided that we should at least get him some chickens and/or guinee fowl to herd - the big dogs agree :)

~paul
 

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   / Calling all dog behaviorists #22  
on the whinning.

you must first address why is (I'll call all dogs he) he is whinning.

Is it excitement?
Is it nervousness? (nervous excitement?)
Is it confusion? (im supposed to do something hear, what do you want me to do boss?)

Mine had 2 diffrent whines. one was for excitement, the other was for confusion. (usually they were associated together, ill get to why in a min)

We put our 2 labs though touch training (we are certified to go into hospitals, nursing homes, schools etc). the training for that was 4 months of weekly 2 hr long sessions. Durring part of the session we were usually sitting in a chair with our dog next to us. the dog was expected to sit/lay next to us for however long we sat there and "be calm" (this was usually while the instructor was explaining a lession and then we individually did it... waiting for the others to do it)

Zeus LOVED the training, he was always excited to go to class. So shortly after we stat down he would whine. In trying to correct it, he would get confused as he didnt know what he was supposed todo. (dude im already sitting next to you not moving what else do you want me to do!)

ITs hard to explain the timming of a correction and verbal command when the whine would occur. some times only a verbal was given, other times just a leash correction was given. (see the dog wisper's vids on youtube for a lesson on leash correction)

Between the 2 you can set up a varring degree of "correction-ness". something like
-light tug
-verbal
-tug
-tug-verbal
-strong tug-strong verbal

after the first couple of commands you need to evaulate what the reaction of the dog is. for instance, when teaching to sit, dispite how hard you snatch the leash or speak at it, if the dog just doesnt understand you its generally not going to do anything but freeze. so after a verbal and a reg-tug. move to put your hand on his rear and give the command again while pushing down.

Whinning is difficult because unlike the above example, there is no easy "to show" correct behavor. barking is easyer as you can hold the snout. An issue i had was at first i was correcting for it like i would barking some sort of touch on the snout. whether i held it, "love tap", finger placement etc. Ultimately this ment i was touching the dog a lot, and sense he wasnt barking he didnt understand. (again see whine for confusion)

Ultimatly we worked on creating a "no" command JUST for whinning.

quick side note on "no" you should really work specific behavors with specific comands, SOOOO many people use "no" for almost any behavor they dont like.
-jump up on someone "no"
-barking "no"
-on the couch "no"
-chewing on the slipper "no"

you can imagine the list. the problem hear is the dog doesnt know what to do. no dont jump up? no stop barking? no get off the couch?

in our world it goes like this
-jump up -down
-barking -quite
-on furniture/lap -off
-chewing on something not good -leaveit

(and back to whinning) -hush

as i had introduced a new command JUST for whinning i could now start reinforcing it. correct when bad, reward when good. so if the dog stops whinning give a treat. when introducing a new command virtually all dogs will respond faster to a food reinforcement. (worried about calorie intake on your overweight dog or the price of a billion treats) pop some microwave popcorn. a single kernal =treat, week old stale popcorn still is like a gift from god to a dog. (at least to mine)

most of us in the touch class were working off a treat reinforcement going into the class. but the issue with that is they generally dont want you feeding the dog while on visits (general rule of thumb the dog should never eat anything, either from you or a guest, when on a visit) so we would work on moveing to another kind of reinforcement. verbal, touch, etc.

for retrievers (training to retrieve) this reinforcement is usually a toy they get to play with (perhaps you've seen on tv the drug sniffing dogs when doing "training" when ever they get a find they get to carry there favorite toy for a bit.


wow marathon post... hope that helped some ;)
 
   / Calling all dog behaviorists #23  
Had the companion dog standard poodle pick his replacement after he got bone cancer. He picked a very trainable female border collie/spaniel mix. His last gift to me was to also train the puppy (about 6 mo or so) how to behave and be a service animal for me. So we just had to pick up where he left off.

Have trained service dogs for over 15 years for others and this was the easiest one yet.

Rough housing? GENERALLY, dogs will play as hard as they can without anyone (dog wise) complaining. Have seen some hard play and they get so wrapped up they forget other things are around such as people and knees to run into. In general, the best thing is to be able to get the animals attention as easily as possible, even a whisper.

Recalls are one of the top commands for almost any situation. Rabbit, skunk, coyote etc etc. Only issue have run into is that do a recall is something happens after the command is given. Such as a car is suddenly coming down the road and your dog is going to cross in front of it and may not treat it as a threat or herding and the cows (etc) changes position and you want the dog to hold in position and cancel the recall, but this is a whole 'nother level of training.

If you are in doubt, listen to the dog. If you are not using negative reinforcement, the worst you can do is reinforce the wrong behavior. I do not leash train any more, positive only. The leash is a tool that may not be available or practical 24/7.

If you or the dog are not having fun then it is time for a break!!!
 

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