California Drought

[houstonscott]

Is there any authority taking responsibility for Orville, and what will the repair look like and how long will it take, and who's going to pay.

 

[turnkey4099]

If your roof leaks it's broken.

And you might note that the dam was not broken. Or is that too complicated for you?

 

[turnkey4099]

Nice that there are humans and a nice Cat in this photo to give an indication of scale.
I suppose we know where the bedrock is now around that spillway.

Yep, well exposed after the overburnden was washed away.

 

[kloudbuster]

I was surprised to see so much rock washed away.

 

[EddieWalker]

It's truly amazing just how much was washed away under the spillway and how misleading so many reports where that it was built on solid bedrock. Somebody has been fibbing, and the real question is what else are they lying about?

 

[kloudbuster]

My personal opinion is that it was more ignorance or misunderstanding rather then lying. The responsibility of a failure on a dam this size is huge

 

[houstonscott]

California faces $50 billion bill for flood control California faces $5 billion bill for flood control | Fox News

 

[TemporaryKubotaOwnerMark]

My personal opinion is that it was more ignorance or misunderstanding rather then lying. The responsibility of a failure on a dam this size is huge

Probably true. "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by simple stupidity."

 

[aczlan]

It's truly amazing just how much was washed away under the spillway and how misleading so many reports where that it was built on solid bedrock. Somebody has been fibbing, and the real question is what else are they lying about?

The main spillway was built on what was available including fill. The upper section (the gates and the section right after them) and the emergency spillway were built on solid rock (to the point where they ripped out an extra 10 feet of rock to reach "suitable rock" to build the emergency spillway on and had to remove a rock outcropping to put in the parking lot/boat launch).

Aaron Z

 

[buckeyefarmer]

If your roof leaks it's broken.

A better analogy is, If your downspout leaks, the roof isn't broken.

 

[bigdeano]

They should have used a better grade of calking compound on the spillway seams and all would have been well.

 

[MossRoad]

They should have used a better grade of calking compound on the spillway seams and all would have been well.

 

[TomSeller]

If your roof leaks it's broken.

If Chicken Little is posting, the sky is falling.

 

[EddieWalker]

I just read that CA is going add a 42 to 151 percent tax to gasoline to help pay for pensions. Where are they going to get the money to pay for infrastructure? When I lived there, they where always talking about a new tax to fix the roads and bridges, but they never seemed to get fixed. From what I understand, tax dollars raised for a specific project an also be used for just about anything else there. Which seems to be the case all too often.

Here in Texas, they have to use the money raised for roads on the roads. In my opinion, they have too much money to spend and they are always repaving the roads. The road to where I live has been repaved three times in the 14 years I've owned my land.

 

[houstonscott]

I just read that CA is going add a .43 cent per gallon tax to gasoline to help pay for pensions. Where are they going to get the money to pay for infrastructure? When I lived there, they where always talking about a new tax to fix the roads and bridges, but they never seemed to get fixed. From what I understand, tax dollars raised for a specific project an also be used for just about anything else there. Which seems to be the case all too often. Here in Texas, they have to use the money raised for roads on the roads. In my opinion, they have too much money to spend and they are always repaving the roads. The road to where I live has been repaved three times in the 14 years I've owned my land.

In Texas the State may not borrow to build or repair roads. They must have money in hand to do a job. I like that... Taxing gas for pensions, that's crazy. Why not tax movies, plays, college students, and beach homes.

 

[ultrarunner]

I just read that CA is going add a .43 cent per gallon tax to gasoline to help pay for pensions. Where are they going to get the money to pay for infrastructure? When I lived there, they where always talking about a new tax to fix the roads and bridges, but they never seemed to get fixed. From what I understand, tax dollars raised for a specific project an also be used for just about anything else there. Which seems to be the case all too often.

Here in Texas, they have to use the money raised for roads on the roads. In my opinion, they have too much money to spend and they are always repaving the roads. The road to where I live has been repaved three times in the 14 years I've owned my land.

Yes... the chickens are coming home to roost and government pensions are the elephant in the room...

My friend was the city manager of your childhood city and the biggest concern was promised pensions... I saw the graphs and pensions would consume the entire budget if nothing changed.

I only expect it to get worse as time goes on and can only become an ecomomic incentive for those with options to look elsewhere...

Mom's property tax increased 33% this year... even with Prop 13 which hold increases to 2%... but does not apply to voter approved ballot measures... anyone that owns property is a target...

There is all kinds or pressure to increase water/sewer rates and electric and gas are/have had large increases...

I have managed rentals for years... my city has now imposed a requirement that the Rent Board must approve improvements and owners cannot over improve... yes... it says this!

 

[EddieWalker]

What does a gallon on unleaded cost there today? I paid $2.07 for gas on Monday, and that wasn't the best price, it was just the closest good price. What will it be with another .43 cents per gallon added to it, and with the increase in fuel prices, what will that do to freight charges getting good delivered to the stores? Sounds like more suffering for the poor.

 

[k0ua]

Yes... the chickens are coming home to roost and government pensions are the elephant in the room...

My friend was the city manager of your childhood city and the biggest concern was promised pensions... I saw the graphs and pensions would consume the entire budget if nothing changed.

I only expect it to get worse as time goes on and can only become an ecomomic incentive for those with options to look elsewhere...

Mom's property tax increased 33% this year... even with Prop 13 which hold increases to 2%... but does not apply to voter approved ballot measures... anyone that owns property is a target...

There is all kinds or pressure to increase water/sewer rates and electric and gas are/have had large increases...

I have managed rentals for years... my city has now imposed a requirement that the Rent Board must approve improvements and owners cannot over improve... yes... it says this!

When are you going to throw in the towel and move out of that state? Haven't you had enough?

 

[dickfoster]

When are you going to throw in the towel and move out of that state? Haven't you had enough?

I sure have. I didn't want to move here from Silicon Valley in the first place but my native angelino wife couldn't feature living in the relative freedom of the USA so here I am. Now she wishes she'd considered Arizona a bit harder but it's too late. Women!

 

[California]

Funny, TBN''s owner moved FROM Arizona to California. As I recall he posted a photo looking out a window at 110+ degree bare desert and contrasted that with a San Diego beach scene or something.