</font><font color="blue" class="small">( so engineers do what engineers do, we build things, usually without plans... )</font>
I don't know how it is where you work, but here is how it usually goes where I work:
-IF- a job has plans / schematics, by the time it is finished, the layout will be so significantly different than the original drawings as to render them useless to use for troubleshooting.
ergo, most of our work gets mocked up on the fly, usually in -needed it yesterday fashion-, as we have little to no interdepartment communication, and any communication that does occour.. is incorrect..., understates requirements, etc.
On the flip side, any work that we have to submit plans for, after the fact, are usually good plans, as we can sit down and reverse engineer everything.
I love my job /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Soundguy