I appreciate all of the help you'all gave me when I had a hydraulic leak. I got that fixed with The Lord's guidance, and wisdom from you,'all. My new-old problem occurred before I had the hydraulic leak. When I engage the pedals (forward or backward) on the HSD the tractor dies. It developed this one day while I was using it and didn't think I'd get it back to the barn. I unplugged the stop solenoid, and I didn't have the problem, just had to manually shut the fuel off. I plugged the stop solenoid in started the tractor, it idled fine. Turned the key off and the solenoid engaged and cut the fuel off and about 5 or so seconds the stop solenoid disengaged, so I don't think it's a relay timer. When I had the tractor apart fixing the hydraulic leak(s) I took all of the safety switches off, including the seat switches, and tested them with an ohm meter and they all read good. I have been using the tractor with the stop solenoid unplugged is there some gremlin hiding somewhere that I didn't think to look for that might be causing the problem? Or an adjustment I can make? Any help would be appreciated. My wife would appreciate being able to turn the key of and it stop, instead of shutting it off manually, or me installing a kill button inline with the stop solenoid?
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dodge man
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It sure sounds like a safety switch issue. Since there is a operators presence switch that is suppose to sense someone in the seat, that’s my guess.
The presence switch is mounted behind the seat, the spring mashes a piece of metal down to activate the switch. It is working correctly. There is also a presence switch on the front left of the seat that activates when the seat is down an someone sets in it. When the seat is folded forward the switch is deactivated and the tractor won't run. What has me confused is that it only does it when I'm sitting in the seat or when I'm out of the seat (with the rear presence switch activated by hand when I'm out of the seat) and press the HSD pedals. All the switches have been tested with an ohm meter. That's why I wonder if there is an adjustment on any switch that could be made to stop this from happening. Any help would be appreciated.
dodge man
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The second switch for the seat allows the rear pto to run with the seat flipped up, like when running a rear pto generator.
I still think it has something to do with the seat kill switch. There is a switch on the pedals also that won’t allow the tractor to start if a HST pedal is engaged but it sounds like it starts fine.
The seat switch may be fine and something else in that system may be the problem. I’m betting and you probably already know this the second you engage one of the forward pedals the stop solenoid kicks the tractor off. I wish I could point to something to look for. Maybe try to bypass the seat switch and see what happens? I don’t know what wiring, relays etc are in that circuit.
I still think it has something to do with the seat kill switch. There is a switch on the pedals also that won’t allow the tractor to start if a HST pedal is engaged but it sounds like it starts fine.
The seat switch may be fine and something else in that system may be the problem. I’m betting and you probably already know this the second you engage one of the forward pedals the stop solenoid kicks the tractor off. I wish I could point to something to look for. Maybe try to bypass the seat switch and see what happens? I don’t know what wiring, relays etc are in that circuit.
Thanks! I've bypassed the presence switch on the back of the seat and the tractor starts fine. It still dies when I press the HST pedals. I've adjusted the HST tension spring to keep the tractor from moving forward when your foot is off of the HST pedals (suppose to do this every 100 hours, as the spring gets weak from stretching, this has probably never been done by the previous owner). The tractor has a timer relay to accuate/deaccuate the stop solenoid and that one works correctly. I checked for shorts in the wiring when I had the tractor apart, an didn't find any. I've looked at the mechanics of the foot pedals and all is well. The only switch it has that's concerns the HST is one in the starting circuit that is linked to the PTO switch and both work properly. All help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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My M62 safety switch only cared about pressing the HST pedal if my butt was out of the seat. I think you still have a safety seat issue. Can you bypass them to confirm?
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Just checked the WSM on the L60, I have a safety seat switch and a seat tilt switch. Do you have both?
I believe there is a sensor or switch at the foot pedal, which you didn't mention. For the symptoms you describe, that would be the first thing to check. If it is busted, misaligned, has bad connections, whatever, it would do just what you describe. The other thing is if the wiring to the other safety switches is correct and undamaged.
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Yes the HST neutral pedal sensor. It goes to the ECU and senses when the pedal is at neutral, or engaged.
dodge man
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I think the switch for the hast pedal would keep it from starting if it thinks the pedal is pressed. It seems like what the op describes is the tractor is running, he presses the pedal, it dies.
Id have to see some kind of wiring diagram to understand what could be wrong. I assume you checked fuses. I still say it’s the seat safety switch, the pto or HST pedal switches would keep the tractor from starting.
Edit, I say the seat safety switch, but it could be somewhere down stream from the actual switch.
Id have to see some kind of wiring diagram to understand what could be wrong. I assume you checked fuses. I still say it’s the seat safety switch, the pto or HST pedal switches would keep the tractor from starting.
Edit, I say the seat safety switch, but it could be somewhere down stream from the actual switch.