BX23 won't start

16valex · Mar 8, 2005

BX23 won\'t start

Folks,

it is snowing like ****, and my BX23 is not turning over at all when try to start. I believe that the problem is lied in the safety circuitry. It could be either the PTO or the neutral switch. I would like to check these switches with a Volt meter, but very difficult to get at. Does any body know the the test points for these switches where I can access them??

Could it be the seat switch, I don't think so because the instruction doesn't mention it?

There's nothing wrong with the starter at all, because if I by pass the safety circuit by sending juice directly to the starter it will start right up.

Thank you for your help.

Alex

btolle · Mar 8, 2005

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Check your PTO lever. I have had a couple of times when my B7510 would not turn over and both times I had accidentally hit the PTO lever and moved it a little, not enough to actually engage the PTO but enough to trip the safety switch.

Bill Tolle

Junkman · Mar 8, 2005

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Wiggle the PTO lever while you have the switch in the start position. If the starter catches, you know that it is that switch. If not, then do the same thing with the hydro lever.. the one with the rabbit and the turtle markings... It is one or the other, but I doubt both. Usually it is a lever that isn't fully seated in the neutral position holding the switch open. If you get it started, after you clean up around your home, come over to mine... it is too cold out there for me to do it..... I need someone that doesn't mind the cold to help... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mike_C · Mar 8, 2005

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I had the same problem. Even when the pto lever was in the
correct position, it did not push down far enough on the
switch to allow the engine to start. I took a 1" piece of green
garden hose and slid it over the lever where it pushes on the
switch and now it works fine. Then I put some silicone around
the edges to make sure it would not slide off over time.

Mike

jim_wilson · Mar 8, 2005

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Check your hydro pedal. This happened to me last summer - one day I was using the BX23 and I hopped off to move something and the thing died. I tried to start it and it started up and then the next time I hopped off the tractor it died again and would not start. Since it would not start it sat out there until I called the dealer the next morning. The dealer said they could not get the service truck out until a day or so later. I came home that night and went around checking all the switches and moving the hydro pedal back and forth and then tried to start the tractor again and it started. And it has never done that again. To this day I still don't know for sure what it was that caused it not to start but nearest I can figure the hydro pedal was stuck and would not return to neutral - so when I hopped off it died and would not start again. I swear that I had checked all that but who knows.

frank_f15 · Mar 8, 2005

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( I believe that the problem is lied in the safety circuitry )
That appears to be the culprit, but which one i have no clue, as otheres have stated , try starting it(holding key in start pos.) and move all the levers and see what happens.

frank_f15 · Mar 8, 2005

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( If you get it started, after you clean up around your home, come over to mine... it is too cold out there for me to do it..... I need someone that doesn't mind the cold to help...
)

Junkman : I HEARD PINE RIDGE IS ON HIS WAY /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Junkman · Mar 8, 2005

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( Junkman : I HEARD PINE RIDGE IS ON HIS WAY /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif )

I doubt it..... we have been down a rocky road this week and I doubt that he is even talking to me. Peace.......peace at last... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

16valex · Mar 8, 2005

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Folks,

Here is what I have done so far, wiggled the PTO and the gear selector levers about 50 times. I even wedged a flat srew driver at the switches to make sure that they go as fas as they can go but ne help.

I think the PTO switch is stuck but this is only a guess, the reason I'm guessing that the PTO switch is because every time I try to get off the tractor the engine will die right away with the PTO at the OFF possition. This had never happened before. Could this be the seat switch has gone bad??? And how to I check if the Hydraulic pedal is in neutral? And this matter to my problem??

Like I said before, I can still start it by sending juice directly to the starter but this method is very inconvenient.

I need to get to the PTO switch to check and see if it toggle, but it is to cold to work on it right now.

Hey Junkman, I would love to give you a hand but I don't think the tractor will make it there from Greenbush NY. By the way, did you watch the Uconn girls beat Rutger today??

Thanks again and please keep the ideas coming, I really appreciated.

Alex

Junkman · Mar 8, 2005

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It must be the PTO switch if it dies when you get off the seat and the engine is running. Take the wifes hair drier and see if you put some heat on the switch area if it might help. I am thinking that if some water got into the switch, it might be frozen and that is the problem. The other thing is you could put a weight in the seat when you get off the tractor after it is running.. If you can unplug the switch, then use a paper clip to jump the two wires until the dealer can fix it for you.

notamustang · Mar 8, 2005

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( The other thing is you could put a weight in the seat when you get off the tractor after it is running )

You can pull the seatbelt over the seat and then sit down when you get up the belt keeps the seat switch depressed.

Tollster · Mar 9, 2005

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Check the switch with an ohm meter, see if you have continuity with the switch in a closed position. This would be a quick check and you'll more than likely have to remove it from the tractor.

16valex · Mar 9, 2005

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Gentlemen,

I like all of your ideas, " put weigh on the seat, using the seat belt to keep the seat down while getting off...etc..." Of course this is temporary solution till the dealer comes...

Junkman, I think you are on the right track, there maybe some water got in the PTO switch, a hair dryer may do the trick, or I may have to use the paper clip method to short it out.

I will try to get to the switch and check it out if it still toggles, I will keep you folks updated. Thank you all for all the wonderful ideas, I love this site.

Alex

16valex · Mar 22, 2005

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Folks,

The weather just barely breaks 40 degrees but the sun is shining so I'm feeling pretty good and motivated.

Started to look into this no start problem again, I went under the tractor and examined the HST pedal, sure enough the return neutral lever was not in a good position to depress the neutral switch, it missed the neutral switch completely. Had to move the switch over a bit to make it function again. The tractor is happy now /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think you folks with BX tractors will run to this problem a lot. If I ever get around, I will glue a piece of metal using some type of durable epoxy, this is to guide the lever from missing the switch. The lever seems to have way too much play in it.

Alex

Scrounger · Mar 22, 2005

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How about a picture of that. I looked under and I was not able to recognize anything that looked like that.

16valex · Mar 22, 2005

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Hey Scrouger,

If you are under the tractor, reach and press the HST pedal a couple of times, you will see a long rod that connected to the HST pedal, at the other end of the rod you will see a lever that goes away and return to seat on the switch when the HST pedal is back at neutral, it is a bit hard to see, for better view you need to remove the HST pedal return spring.

Good luck,
Alex

dbasedave · Jul 25, 2017

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Junkman said:
It must be the PTO switch if it dies when you get off the seat and the engine is running. Take the wifes hair drier and see if you put some heat on the switch area if it might help. I am thinking that if some water got into the switch, it might be frozen and that is the problem. The other thing is you could put a weight in the seat when you get off the tractor after it is running.. If you can unplug the switch, then use a paper clip to jump the two wires until the dealer can fix it for you.

I have a BX23S and when I would go down a hill or up the hill the motor would shut off. It would restart but then do the same thing again. I found it was the switch under the seat. When you go down hill you shift on the seat which takes pressure off the switch and shuts the motor down. I solved it by putting about a quarter of an inch of Velcro sticky on the bottom of the seat to push on the button. Works Great.
Now I was using my tractor last night and it was just caked with mud so I decided to pressure wash it. I shut the motor off and cleaned it up but when I went to move it, it would not start. It had power and all the instruments worked but nothing to the starter. I played with it for about an hour and what I discovered is the small wire that goes to the solenoid was loose. When I touched it, it came right off. I pushed the wire back on to the clip and hit the key and it fired right up. Problem solved.

Jj1479 · Jul 25, 2017

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dbasedave said:
I have a BX23S and when I would go down a hill or up the hill the motor would shut off. It would restart but then do the same thing again. I found it was the switch under the seat. When you go down hill you shift on the seat which takes pressure off the switch and shuts the motor down. I solved it by putting about a quarter of an inch of Velcro sticky on the bottom of the seat to push on the button. Works Great.
Now I was using my tractor last night and it was just caked with mud so I decided to pressure wash it. I shut the motor off and cleaned it up but when I went to move it, it would not start. It had power and all the instruments worked but nothing to the starter. I played with it for about an hour and what I discovered is the small wire that goes to the solenoid was loose. When I touched it, it came right off. I pushed the wire back on to the clip and hit the key and it fired right up. Problem solved.

That post is from 2005