BX2200 with a Backhoe?

Meadowdale · Dec 17, 2009

Hi All:

I've been looking for a compact Kubota TLB for a while now that will satisfy needs and budget. I just saw a used BX2200 on Craigslist with a woods backhoe (6000) mounted on it. I plan on using a BH to remove many stumps over the next few years. However, I don't believe its recommended that a BH be mounted on a BX2200. I don't even know if it has a swivel seat! The asking price is $4900 and I'm wondering if this is something to stay far away from or is it at least worth a look?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

radioman · Dec 17, 2009

first of all- BX's are very nifty machines. I have a BX24 and have a backhoe with it. If you notice that the BX2200 have 4 digits and mine is 2- thats becuase the 4 digits BX's don't offer BH from kubota. As you have surmised, woods a third party company offers a BH for the BX's that doesnt come with one. On a kubota BX, the diggin is ok and can reach 4-6 feet down. Just don't expect to pop stumps out, the BX is a small tractor and takes time to dig stumps. It took me 2 days to dig out 4 stumps and 3 were maples and other elm. The maple stumps is a bear. The tap roots went down further then 6 feet.

A word of caution- its nearly impossible to get a BX with BH for less then 5k. Everytime I see an AD for less then 5k esp for tractors- I beleive its a scam. Thats how they get away with it- 5k is the mark to track things down. Where did you see this? I seen this on craigslist for awhile and now they stopped. Don't buy it unless you see it first- if they want cash first or giv eyou someething extra or will ship to you, RUN!! too many red flags!!

Stubee · Dec 17, 2009

Not sure where you're located but that ad is in about every CL listing in Michigan and is almost surely just another scam. They pop up constantly and are always too good to be true.

TripleR · Dec 17, 2009

I don't know about this particular tractor, but the BX2200 and Woods BH is a very good setup.

TheFlatlander · Dec 17, 2009

Meadowodale,
You must be in Michigan, because I found it on Craig's list right away with a local search. The unit is listed with 750 Hrs. Definatly alot of tractor for the money. Make sure to see it in person to make deal. Alot of information in the ad and the BH is the newer style. If its for real its a good package.

EDIT: My bad, only 310 hours. But this does seem too good to be true. Snap it up if its for real. Good luck

SARG · Dec 17, 2009

I have the BH6000 on a NH T1030. It will do the job but has limitations for sure. After you learn where they are you can accomplish a lot with it.

SARG · Dec 17, 2009

The first week she moved a few ton of material.

newbury · Dec 17, 2009

The CL price of $4900 is a price point many of the scams are at.
Try it like new ice. Probably not safe.

That being said:
Check my thread
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/147380-my-first-stump.html

1 small tractor, 1 stump w/ a tap root.

As radioman said it takes a while.
If you are being paid by the hour to do the job you should use a bigger machine, if you, like me, are piddlin' around on your own time it's doable.

Meadowdale · Dec 18, 2009

Thanks everyone for the insights and thoughts on my questions. I'm actually in eastern NY (not Mi) and find it interesting there are so many scams out there with these tractors. I've been debating with myself whether to go for a newer BX24 or 25 or something with a little more clearance and power like one of the B2x20 units. However, I figured this 2200 would be worth a look as long as the BH hasn't ruined the tractor's frame. If the guy responds to my email, I'll check it out.

Thanks again.

gwdixon · Dec 18, 2009

Responding to your email is done by scammers. It is usually a generic cut-and-paste creation. Make a non-negotiable requirement that you see the tractor personally and deal directly with the seller. Delivering it to your front door, arranging payment through a third party, sob stories are scam tip offs.

As far as a tractor for you - A BX2200 with a BH would be slow as molasses. The hydraulic pump's capacity is 5.5 gpm while something like a B26 is 11.5 gpm. The B2620 is 8.3 gpm while the L35 is 17.3 gpm. Can't say about the other BX pumps but at least you have a reference point. I know the B and the L are not in you plans (yet).

Even my L48 can take hours to remove a huge stump in clay ground so a large stump with a small backhoe may take several days.

The FEL on a BX2200 takes some serious revs to work at a normal rate so a BH would need similar revs on that size tractor. That small hydraulic pump has to be producing at the max to get things going at a reasonable rate.

ampsucker · Dec 18, 2009

scam.

even heavily used bx's w/ FEL and BH go for 12-13 grand.

if it doesn't have a FEL, the back hoe alone will make it almost unsteerable.

stay away from this one.

also, if you have a bunch of stumps, you'l be ahead renting a fullsize machine for a day or two. then you can just pop 'em out and be done with it.

amp

radioman · Dec 18, 2009

ampsucker said:
scam.

even heavily used bx's w/ FEL and BH go for 12-13 grand.

if it doesn't have a FEL, the back hoe alone will make it almost unsteerable.

stay away from this one.

also, if you have a bunch of stumps, you'l be ahead renting a fullsize machine for a day or two. then you can just pop 'em out and be done with it.

amp

ampsucker also said it- RUN! just RUN! ignore the ad. Go to your local dealer and take a look at the machines there. If you want to save money- call barlows, there been many positive comments about them and will deliver to you when they are in your area. If you have no other tasks for BH other then stumps, rent a real excavator for the day- you will come out ahead in terms of money long term.

LBrown59 · Dec 18, 2009

TripleR said:
I don't know about this particular tractor, but the BX2200 and Woods BH is a very good setup.

Looks like a scam.
Either the tractor or the Bh would go for the asking price .

Smilies

TripleR · Dec 19, 2009

LBrown59 said:
Looks like a scam.
Either the tractor or the Bh would go for the asking price .

Smilies

Yep, got $7500 out of my 03 BX2200 a few months ago.

Tom_H · Dec 19, 2009

This ad is in all probability a scam. On a rare occasion, you may find a widow who does not know the value of her deceased husband's stuff, trying to sell off his old things. Nevertheless, put down no money unless you have test driven the machine, and still use good judgment. If you try the machine, but the seller seems shady, it could be stolen. If you go to her farm, you see she is old, all his other stuff is there, you can probably figure she is on the level. Now the question is, do you take advantage of her innocence? IMHO, a good and honest man would tell her what she could actually get for it.

In any case, a Woods BH6000 on a BX2200 is a good machine. I have that combination. The subframe takes care of any problems you may be thinking of. You would NOT want to put a 3ph backhoe on this tractor (I wouldn't put one on ANY tractor for that matter). By searching the archives here, you can find literally thousands of posts on the BH6000. The only thing it won't do is dig in the hardest of hardpans or anything harder than that. In the following thread, you can see pics of all the stumps and boulders dug up by blackmajicwoman with a BH6000 on his little BX1500:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...527-bx1500-woods-bh6000.html?highlight=BH6000

TheFlatlander · Dec 19, 2009

Well with all reality Its probably a scam. As rare as a BX2200 with a woods BH is there are three BX2200 with BH's showing the same pictures and detailed description listed all for $4900, here in Michigan on Craig's list and the OP is no where close to here. Coincidence? The information and pictures are usually are taken from a real e-bay or other listing and used as bait. Either that, or its the new going price...

Ductape · Dec 19, 2009

S C A M !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

crbr · Dec 20, 2009

SARG said:
The first week she moved a few ton of material.

What is the pipe line for? I see what it does but what purpose have you applied? And the use of the underlayment? Just curious. Nice work that machine does.

SARG · Dec 20, 2009

Called a french drain......... the filter fabric... then #2 stones...input the four inch perforated pipe ... more stones....wrap over more fabric and then about 4 inches of topsoil. 260 feet this year and an equal amount next year. Tired of the wet lawn that never dries.

And the nice thing about #2 stones is that when you dig the ditch and the bottom looks like a roller coaster ....... the stones make it look like you knew what you're doing with the backhoe.

Trafficman · Dec 28, 2009

Meadowdale,
I have the BX22 new with the FEL, Backhoe, 54" deck & 48" Woods rear blade. It all fits on a 14ft trailer & has dug many fish ponds, mowed my grass 2x a month since new.

& will be digging the basements for my 24ftx36ft shop & 18ftx 65ft basement addition for my house as soon as I get the permits. Great machine. Now has ~3200 hrs. & is starting to need hoses.

I can't really complain about it. Got a deal @ $9200.00 new in '01? wo rear blade. It has bee a very solid workhorse since day 1. Looking at a Walco 60In. 3PH snowblower for it. Not completely sure about that though.
T-Man.