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[Tom_H]

Any mass added to the rears increases backtip tendency during acceleration. This is because the mass is above the tire contact patch where the accelerative force is delivered. Same idea on a slope, where a component of G provides the acceleration force even if the tractor is not gaining speed. If it is gaining speed its a double whammy.
larry

I completely see what you are saying. The extra mass in the tires gives extra inertia to overcome during acceleration. Some of the torque which would have gone towards ΔV is transmuted into energy that rotates the entire Tractor/BH combination on the rear axle. (One might visualize the tractor with the rear wheels locked in huge vice clamps. When acceleration is applied, the tractor can't move foward, so the energy applied to the axle rotates the tractor instead-like a motorcycle or drag racer rearing up with the front wheel(s) off the ground.) If the tractor is already on a slope, the front end is already partially lifted, the CG is higher, and less vectored force is required to pivot the tractor on the rear axle. (This would not happen an a FWD automobile, but does happen on a tractor in RWD. Even in 4WD, most of that energy goes into the rears anyway.) Concurrently, (on the slope) the now vectored force of G increases the resistance against ΔV in an uphill direction, making the rotation of the rig require still less energy. Excellent points! Thanks!!

 

[asylum575]

This is fun! This thread is beginning to sound a lot like Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory!!
I love physics.

You jinxed it.

I'm sure someone will chime in about buying more than one tractor. One with BH, one without and you should get a great deal.

BTW.
Go with the BX25, I've had my BX24 for three years and it was the best way to go. I can take the BH off almost as fast as Neil Messick on YouTube.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

You jinxed it.

I'm sure someone will chime in about buying more than one tractor. One with BH, one without and you should get a great deal.

BTW.
Go with the BX25, I've had my BX24 for three years and it was the best way to go. I can take the BH off almost as fast as Neil Messick on YouTube.

Actually the BX25 will be moved to my rental property.

 

[Wacky]

Just spoke to my dealer he is offering me a very good deal so now I am very close now to pulling the trigger. Have to wait on the wife returning from a meeting in Pittsburg Friday night. Go Saturday morning to see what we are going to do. Who knows how much a good bush hog or similar type brush cutter will set me back? And a 4 foot one is what I see is the right size, correct?

 

[SPYDERLK]

Sooo... basically the liquid in the tires are forced opposite the direction in which the tractor is moving up a hill moving the balance point back increasing the tendency to roll?? If so, what would this do while "side sloping" the hill?? Are the loaded tires so close to the ground for the risk of rollover to be diminished?
I'm not so sure there is a really benefit of loading tires on such a narrow, low setting machine. Maybe if the BH is off and your FEL is loaded. But just for basic mowing, not sold. Wonder if the bolt on weights would be more beneficial?

Equal amount bolt on weights would give the same backtip disadvantage -- a little worse actually because weights are dead centered and therefore a little higher than a partially [~80%] filled tire. Also, when taking off with hard weights you have to accelerate them translationally and rotationaly immediately -- fluid doesnt have to accelerate rotationaly right away. Neither is a big backtip issue tho and I would go for it if you want added traction and stability. Weight on or in the rears will help on sideslope because the the weight is, at worst, [hard weight] centered on the axle and that is still a little below [inches] the tractors CG.
larry

 

[Wacky]

Ok, I need stability but not the backtip. I think I will get them filled. I will just be careful when trekking up a big hill with the hoe attatched. The next thing is I have read alot of BX owners having leaky tire issues, would it be wise to tube the tires and then fill??

 

[SPYDERLK]

Some like the ease of plugging a non tube tire puncture. I would go tube with either CaCl or Rimguard because of wheel corrosion with former and stories of the wheel spinning within the bead with the beet juice. I think other fluids [all significantly lighter]would be OK w/o tube. I run water in my 7520 and drain in winter -- no tubes, but I sorta want them. They are a bigger deal if you get a puncture tho.
larry

 

[TripleR]

For the BX, I prefer the wheel weights; don't have to worry about rust and they can be removed if needed. The cost is about the same as filled.

 

[keyman1808]

TripleR where did you get the bolt on wheel weights?? Do you think that is enough weight for the winter when snow blowing?? I run the R4's without chains and usually leave my BH on my BX24. Just wondering if you think those weights would be enough.

 

[TripleR]

TripleR where did you get the bolt on wheel weights?? Do you think that is enough weight for the winter when snow blowing?? I run the R4's without chains and usually leave my BH on my BX24. Just wondering if you think those weights would be enough.

I bought them at the Kubota dealership when I bought my tractor. They weigh the same as fluid according to the salesman and there was only five dollars difference.

Can't help much with the snow as we have so little of it. I have used it some and it worked well, but I don't have much to compare it with.