Traction BX-24 Transmission Failure??

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#31  
Most times I engaged the diff lock in anticipation of needing it, but it's quite possible I've engaged it while the wheels were spinning. Now that I understand the design I'll be extra careful when engaging it.

I've also realized that my diff lock may have not been engaging properly since I purchased the tractor. When engaging the lock my peddle would only go about halfway down, then if I kept in engaged for a minute or so it would drop all the way in. Is that normal behavior?

I'm asking this because as I was checking for damaged parts I noticed that the diff lock peddle was hanging up on burrs in the fork sleeve slot and shaft, causing it to stick when partially engaged, then engage fully when pressed harder. A few minutes with a needle file and 600 paper made it slide smooth as silk. When I put the tractor back together I'll find out if the diff lock engages smoother and completley.

After checking prices at Messicks, Colemans and my local dealer I ordered the parts locally. The local dealer was actually the cheapest by a couple of dollars. Messicks was the highest, Colemans was about 10 percent lower. I checked a couple of parts at Tractor Smart and they seemed the same as Colemans

The parts were delayed by the holiday but I should have them by the end of the week. Meanwhile I've been touching up, cleaning, polishing lubricating and organizing the pieces for reassembly.
 
   / BX-24 Transmission Failure?? #32  
...I've also realized that my diff lock may have not been engaging properly since I purchased the tractor. When engaging the lock my peddle would only go about halfway down, then if I kept in engaged for a minute or so it would drop all the way in. Is that normal behavior?

I'm asking this because as I was checking for damaged parts I noticed that the diff lock peddle was hanging up on burrs in the fork sleeve slot and shaft, causing it to stick when partially engaged, then engage fully when pressed harder...

My diff lock engages the same way. Some times the pedal goes right down and other times I have to wait a bit. However, any time I'm waiting for it to engage (go down) I'm always very gentle on the fwd/rev pedal.
 
   / BX-24 Transmission Failure?? #33  
My diff lock engages the same way. Some times the pedal goes right down and other times I have to wait a bit. However, any time I'm waiting for it to engage (go down) I'm always very gentle on the fwd/rev pedal.

You are doing they right thing by allowing it to engage before applying full load. The pins have to align with the holes then slide in to be engaged. When you push the pedal, do so with authority, move slightly to align, and it should engage smoothly. Keep the shaft and linkage clean and lubricated, and push hard. Your diff lock should last the life of your tractor...
 
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Final Report:

I'm back to work with my BX-24.

I've completed the repairs to the differential in my BX-24 and have been using it the past few days. The diff lock actually works better than when I purchased the tractor. It fully engages within a few feet of movement and releases immediately when I release the pedal. When the tractor was new the binding in the pedal mechanism prevented full release, sometimes I'd be driving 30 seconds or more before the pedal released. It actually took me a few weeks before I realized the pedal should drop to the floor when engaging the diff lock.

The repair was fairly easy even though it involved stripping the rear of the tractor down to the metal rails to get to the transaxle. Only standard mechanics metric tools were needed, plus a couple of strong
helpers, an engine hoist or a transmission jack to remove the transaxle. The entire differential is accessible through the side of the housing when the right axle is removed. The differential parts just slip out and the new parts slip in. I had a bit of trouble replacing the right axle because one of the two brake plates was inserted with sharp corners towards the spline that had to be pushed in when reinstalling. I took the brake assembly apart and turned the disk so the rounded edge was out to work the axle back in.

Parts Requiring Replacement.
Prices from my local dealer.

Differential Assembly $275 (See note below)
Differential Lock Shifter $35

Parts Replaced just in case
Large Ball Bearing $25
Small Ball Bearing $20

Maintenance Items
Hydraulic filter $11
5 Gal SUDT $102

Grand Total $468

Note: Despite what the parts diagrams show this include the gears. Strangely the gears alone sell for $364, while the complete assembly with gears sells for $275.

All together my BX-24 was out of service for about 6 weeks, most of that was time spent on vacation, figuring out what to do, waiting for parts and cleaning the tractor. Overall I could have done the job in 1 long day or 2 days taking my time.

Jim
 

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   / BX-24 Transmission Failure?? #35  
I do not look forward to the day I have to make repairs to my tractor like that.

One thing that has been on my mind lately is... how long does it take to get major parts?

I ask this because I recently bought my new Kubota. Took about a month to get... special order. I am still waiting for four items: ballast box, bucket tines, pallet forks and 3rd function valve for the FEL.

None of the items I am waiting on are holding me up. They will show up when they show up. I'm fine with that. But it has been over two months.

What if I had a breakdown and needed some internal parts? How long would that take? Kubota dealers what say you? How does this compare to other makes? I see this being an issue with growth and competing with the "big boys"... other than property owners that want tractors to play with.

Don't get me wrong. I love my Kubota and would not have done it differently. However this delay in getting my "accessories" has had me thinking about this lately.
 
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#36  
Ordered repair parts from my dealer here in NJ usually arrive at the dealership in three business days. For example a parts order I telephoned in Monday morning arrived at the dealer noontime on Thursday. From what I have overheard they order parts from a distribution center in Atlanta Ga.

Whenever I have needed maintenance parts, filters, lubricants, etc the dealer has had them in stock.

Jim
 
   / BX-24 Transmission Failure?? #37  
The BX24 is similar to the BX22. Mine just went in the BX22 during the big 24" snow, broken differential gear was pushed through the case by the final gear. Saw a large stripe of fluid in the snow and thought I lost a hose.....I was able to use a pressure bandage so I could fill the trans with fluid to remove the backhoe and loader. The larger part of the case is 1500.00 alone. Ask me if I am thrilled. Total tab for parts and labor is 4200.00
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   / BX-24 Transmission Failure?? #38  
The BX24 is similar to the BX22. Mine just went in the BX22 during the big 24" snow, broken differential gear was pushed through the case by the final gear. Saw a large stripe of fluid in the snow and thought I lost a hose.....I was able to use a pressure bandage so I could fill the trans with fluid to remove the backhoe and loader. The larger part of the case is 1500.00 alone. Ask me if I am thrilled. Total tab for parts and labor is 4200.00
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Kudos on the pressure bandage, that's quite a contraption. Nice work.

You might wanna edit your post though, cuz you have thumbnails of each picture, then say you link to all the pictures the dealer sent, but all 7 of those links point at just the first picture.
 

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