bumper pull vs goose neck

[ovrszd]

Several Ford, GM and Ram 1/2tons here with GN balls towing stock trailers, horse trailers and flat beds. The 10K+ tow rating 1/2 tons were a game changer.

Awesome!!! Glad it's working for them!!!

 

[Mallard1]

Just an update, I did end up going with a 24'(21'+3") 102" wide with drive over fenders. Here is a picture of hooked up empty. I measured the distance from the fender well to the ground, front and rear before and after. I will also take measurements after I get the tractor loaded this weekend. Thanks for all of the discussion on this.

No trailer: Front: 39-1/4" Rear: 40"
Empty Trailer: Front: 39-1/4" Rear: 38-1/4"

 

[deezler]

Nice. You might want some air bags for the rear end of your truck..... squatting pretty good already with an unloaded trailer. Even with all that dead weight bolted on up front, haha.

I suppose you "leveled" your truck ?

 

[Mallard1]

Yes truck has 2.5" spacers in the front so that contributes to the perceived sag in the rear. I do have an "add-a-leaf" put on the rear. I'll see how it looks with the tractor loaded Saturday or Sunday.

 

[fried1765]

Nice. You might want some air bags for the rear end of your truck..... squatting pretty good already with an unloaded trailer. Even with all that dead weight bolted on up front, haha.

I suppose you "leveled" your truck ?

Air bags are great!
I added them, and it made towing pleasurable.

 

[LD1]

Just an update, I did end up going with a 24'(21'+3") 102" wide with drive over fenders. Here is a picture of hooked up empty. I measured the distance from the fender well to the ground, front and rear before and after. I will also take measurements after I get the tractor loaded this weekend. Thanks for all of the discussion on this.

No trailer: Front: 39-1/4" Rear: 40"
Empty Trailer: Front: 39-1/4" Rear: 38-1/4"

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Dang. Thats the kind of trailer I am looking for. Just cannot seem to find much near me and/or reasonably priced.

 

[fried1765]

Dang. Thats the kind of trailer I am looking for. Just cannot seem to find much near me and/or reasonably priced.

That entire rig is absolutely magnificent!

 

[LD1]

That entire rig is absolutely magnificent!

Yes it is. I have a 20+5 dual tandem but no longer have an 18,000lb backhoe that needs moved on ocassion.

Im down to just a 8000# mini ex and a ~8000# tractor at its heaviest.

Dad has a 22' BP and its so much nicer loading stuff on it as opposed to the deckover. Its just too short for tractor + loader + bushhog.

I been shopping for GN 24' with the deck between the fenders. And looking at prices through 2nd-tier MFG's like Appalachian, Kauffman, Quality, etc and seeing $4800-$5200 prices I was hopeful at finding one. But then seeing ironbulls, PJ's, Gators, etc and some of the prices eclipsing 8k gets discouraging.

I dont wanna drive 200 miles to get a trailer.....so still keeping my eyes local for something to pop up

 

[fried1765]

Yes it is. I have a 20+5 dual tandem but no longer have an 18,000lb backhoe that needs moved on ocassion.

Im down to just a 8000# mini ex and a ~8000# tractor at its heaviest.

Dad has a 22' BP and its so much nicer loading stuff on it as opposed to the deckover. Its just too short for tractor + loader + bushhog.

I been shopping for GN 24' with the deck between the fenders. And looking at prices through 2nd-tier MFG's like Appalachian, Kauffman, Quality, etc and seeing $4800-$5200 prices I was hopeful at finding one. But then seeing ironbulls, PJ's, Gators, etc and some of the prices eclipsing 8k gets discouraging.

I dont wanna drive 200 miles to get a trailer.....so still keeping my eyes local for something to pop up

Kaufman trailers seem to have a good reputation, and THEY deliver!

 

[LD1]

Kaufman trailers seem to have a good reputation, and THEY deliver!

Yea, I havent heard much bad about them. BUT, and its a big but.....because everyone treats/stores/and uses them differently.....but the few kauffman trailers that I have seen in my area on the used market....4-5 years old....look like they are 10-15 years old. So I dont know what that says about them.

And delivery cost pushes their prices to the point I might as well order one local and get a PJ, Suretrac, etc

 

[sd455dan]

Yes truck has 2.5" spacers in the front so that contributes to the perceived sag in the rear. I do have an "add-a-leaf" put on the rear. I'll see how it looks with the tractor loaded Saturday or Sunday.

I think the idea of air bags is a good one Your trailer is NICE I like the drive over wheels
My fifth wheel tilt bed is a Real pain when hauling things like cars...- have to climb out the window once on the trailer because the doors hit the trailer fenders.

Only thing that is a question for me looking at the trailer is an appearance the wheels are a bit farther back than some others, with a good sized CUT parked centered it looks like the tongue weight could be a bit more than some other trailers.
No big deal, Just thinking May need to tie the tractor down a bit more rear ward to get the tongue weight where the F-150 is Happy.

 

[Mallard1]

Dang. Thats the kind of trailer I am looking for. Just cannot seem to find much near me and/or reasonably priced.

Thanks, this was around $5500, I looked at the PJ and they were around $6500 but had powder coat. I know for most people that is a plus but like to be able to weld stuff on and then just hit it back with paint.

 

[Mallard1]

Thanks! I pulled my tractor back home this afternoon and had the forks on. I had them flat on the trailer and almost touching the front and it seemed to pull well. I値l post a picture when I get on a computer.

I did measure the height of the Rear fender well though.

no trailer: 40
Empty trailer: 38-1/4
With tractor loaded: 36 (appx 6,500 lbs tractor or 10,500lbs tractor + trailer).
Truck only with 1000 lbs in bed: 38

 

[1010]

Kaufman trailers seem to have a good reputation, and THEY deliver!

They have been making big truck trailers for a long time.

 

[Rock Crawler]

Thanks! I pulled my tractor back home this afternoon and had the forks on. I had them flat on the trailer and almost touching the front and it seemed to pull well. I値l post a picture when I get on a computer.

I did measure the height of the Rear fender well though.

no trailer: 40
Empty trailer: 38-1/4
With tractor loaded: 36 (appx 6,500 lbs tractor or 10,500lbs tractor + trailer).
Truck only with 1000 lbs in bed: 38

Take and post again next time but do the front rise along with the rear drop. That tells you more than the rear alone.

Are you applying your weight distribution at that amount of rear drop?

 

[ovrszd]

My GN doesn't cause the front of my truck to lift. Only lowers the rear. The ball is slightly ahead of the rear axle.

 

[Rock Crawler]

My GN doesn't cause the front of my truck to lift. Only lowers the rear. The ball is slightly ahead of the rear axle.

I thought he was referring to a bumper pull....

 

[ovrszd]

I thought he was referring to a bumper pull....

Referring to his new trailer pictured in post #42.