The sad and SCARY part is that what other choice do you have besides the big box stores now a days. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I remember growing up, and my dad going to the local hardware store, and what they didn't carry which wasn't much being it was not very big, they ordered. Now HD has put most of the little mom and pop shops out of business. I guess they can import all the Chinese made junk much cheaper then real stuff made in the USA. And talking about junk....it seems everything I buy from HD is junk and doesn't last for more then 1 yr..example, I purchased a hose real...took it home, rolled it out of the garage, rolled up the hose. The next day, I was unrolling it and the handle broke right off...yes, the accepted the return, but I am really tired of everything being made so cheap, and breaking. When will we realize as a nation that if we keep losing our American job to china then we will have no quality items left...let alone any jobs left.....Sorry for rambling but I need to go to HD today to get some screws...I am really dreading it... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif