NoTrespassing
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From what I've read the administration backed off somewhat on their push toward EV adoption. The (big 3) share prices are all up today on the news. I'm not going to pretend to understand it.
Battery based vehicles of today and tomorrow pt 2
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txdon
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Stock is up because of the delayed forcing of EVs. (For a few more years anyway)
NoTrespassing
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What I need explained is this:
The original proposal would have lowered "petroleum-equivalent fuel economy" ratings for electric vehicles by 72% in 2027. The final rules will instead gradually cut the EV mileage ratings through 2030 by 65%, giving automakers more time to adjust.
NoTrespassing
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Does that mean if an EV is rated at 300 mpg now, the government will reduce that rating gradually by 65% through 2030 and thus reduce the mpg rating of the entire fleet of each of the "big 3" since they are making some EVs to offset the mpg of their ICE vehicles?
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2030 is right around the corner to me. There has historically been a great deal of “research-based” hype around new battery tech, but we have yet to see anything but Lithium (poor energy density) in EVs. Are you seeing something different that has made it to a production EV?
riptides
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The market overall.....
Soft landing affirmations/confirmations, strong labor market, stubborn inflation, consumer spending and.....possible rate cuts.
High tide syndrome.
riptides
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In production no.
Research is still king.
6 alternatives to lithium-ion batteries: What's the future of energy storage?
Lithium-ion batteries power everything from smartphones to electric vehicles today, but safer and better alternatives are on the horizon.
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What’s next for batteries
Expect new battery chemistries for electric vehicles and a manufacturing boost thanks to government funding this year.
www.technologyreview.com
txdon
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Sooner than that:
"Tesla has promised to launch an entry-level vehicle priced at around $25,000 as soon as late 2025."
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No they are trying to get at apples to apples. So overall a vehicle manufacturer needs to hit a certain mpg target for all vehicles they deliver. If a truck is 20 mpg and a EV is 80, the average is 50 mpg…. if the ratings are going down by 50%, let’s say today the average is 30 mpg overall. To meet the new mark it would need to be 45 mpg overall.
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No it’s not…research is just research. Most of these will never make it to market. Demonstrating in a lab vs. figuring out a way to mass produce and support a model are very different.In production no.
Research is still king.
6 alternatives to lithium-ion batteries: What's the future of energy storage?
Lithium-ion batteries power everything from smartphones to electric vehicles today, but safer and better alternatives are on the horizon.
What’s next for batteries
Expect new battery chemistries for electric vehicles and a manufacturing boost thanks to government funding this year.
I do hope we get some new tech…..but we still have a way to go.
Toyota was even working on an ammonia based ICE…burns much cleaner than gasoline/diesel. We know we need to reduce emissions….just have to wait and see what wins.