Bad Bears

[monkeymonk]

Its bear season alright.Woke up at 12am to a loud noise and the dog a barking, nothing to unusual the free range horses are always getting into things. I grabed my mag-light and went to inspect. Next thing i saw was a BIG brown flash running slowly.... HuH, thats no horse. I spotted my mag on him... he was just sitting there still, 25 yards away for maybe 40 seconds or so.....dog barking the whole time not to far behind. The dog was just as confused as I. The bear was just hanging out!

Let me tell ya we gots lots of bears and lions up here and they always run at first bark and chase. By the time I get up and out their gone or running away!
most the time they wait till I am gone to come reap havoc..kind of like their watching and waiting till i pull out.

Sooo.. i was telling my neighbor up the road to watch out for Smokey hes a brave one when he tells me he saw the D.F.G (dept of fish and game)big box truck roll down the road the other day! Looks like we just got a fresh batch of relocated problem bears dropped off! Great for the people and parks they were causing problems for but bad for us as well.

Some how DFG thinks these bears will be rehabilitated and go out into the great wild and be free again...AHH............................sounds tooo good.
these bears just wonder back down the road or through the forest hunting for that oh so good human scent, ahh...................... compost,recycling,gardens,fruit,dog food,coolers,refridgeraters,even BEER! they want the Goods they don't want to forage on grasses and berries after tasting the good life! I can't blame them,what animal wouldn't? I Do

I do blame the DFG and others who ditch their problem animals out here weither its a wolf dog, a bad dog, a snake or what ever you have it they just end up causing trouble and get put down anyhow.

With that said I'll be waiting tonite for MR smokey hopefully he will come when im home. I just hate it when they come when your gone, bust through the front door and crash out the back after they just tore the kitchen apart for a block of Cheese and some Mayo. Last year one came in and stole some Rib's and tin canned the refridgerator! If you've never had your fridge tin canned your not missing anything Trust Me.

you hear that? Gotta Go............

 

[mikim]

time for a new rug in the den?

 

[scott_vt]

time for a new rug in the den?

Yup !!!

 

[ByronBob]

Sounds like you need an intervention there. Say a Remington 700??

 

[EddieWalker]

I heard awhile ago that they stoped relocating bears because of all the problems it created, the money it cost and the total failure of the results. Relocated animals have an extremely high mortality rate, they continue to cause the same problems the caused them to be relocated and it's extremely expensive.

There was a time when the bears in Yosemite were being relocated to the Tehama Wilderness area. Come hunting season, those were the first bears killed because they didn't have any fear of humans. They'd just walk out in the open and get shot. This was such common knowledge that people were actually keeping track of where the bears were let go and how many.

I can's say for certain with bears, but I do know for a fact the the DFG will publicy state that they've relocated deer and actually kill them. It's called public relations. Tell the people what they want to hear and then take care of the problem.

Interesting that they would relocate them to an area with people living when there's so many Wilderness areas and National Forest locations that are extremly remote.

A bear that doesn't run away and isn't afraid of you is the most dangerous thing out there. Do what you need to, because if you don't, the odds are that you'll regret it.

Good luck,
Eddie

 

[scesnick]

Be sure you have a good case before you do something that could get you in ALOT of trouble. I had a Bear that continually chased my horse and I am certain was trying to get her down and kill her. I finally had mr. 30.06 waiting by the door one morning when my wife yelled the bear was chasing the horse !!!
I let one single round fly and the bear went down. I did the right thing ( atleast i thought at the time) and called the Dept. of natural resource Police.
I was questioned 4 seperate times and questioned my they wife 2 seperate times when I wasn't home. They tried to make an example out of me. It was turned over to the states attorney and thankfully the case was dropped for lack of evidence.
I then told them I will NEVER call them about my bear problem again.
Since that time I have had the DNR Game Wardens at my farm evey single hunting season checking me left and right.
I guess i should have just let my registered morgan become this bears dinner. That is pretty much what they wanted me to do.

 

[czechsonofagun]

I cannot help myself - but isn't it something what one would expect in People's Republic of Maryland?

We lived there few years but never liked MD - moved to Virginia 4 years ago and never looked back.

 

[scesnick]

It is getting pretty bad. Fortunatley I live in Western Md.
To make matters worse, I called the DNR a ton of times telling them they need to come trap this bear and they blew me off. They said " sir, it is just unheard of for a bear to chase a horse". Well, I guess we all can't be "Bearologists" but I know what that bear was trying to do and it wasn't good for my horses health.

 

[czechsonofagun]

Western Maryland is beautiful. I took few trips round there jeepin'
I remember last fall the 8 year old girl shot a bear in Western Maryland (afaik) - quite a shock for some liberals I am forced to work with

Oh well, thats life

 

[scesnick]

thatwas about 10 miles from my farm. It has been rumored that dad did everything but pull the prigger. But still quite a feat for an 8 yr. old.

 

[meadowlarkponds]

Wow, I've always been disturbed about city people dumping their unwanted dogs and cats on us rural folks, but bears...Wow! That's an entirely different situation.

 

[EddieWalker]

The mistake you made was calling it in and making it official. Most game wardens that I've dealt with are really very understanding people who know what's going on. Unfortunately, they are controled by beurocrats who are only interested in apperances. Once you make it known that you killed a bear out of season, and without a license, it's official and somebody in an office someplace is gonna want something done about it. It doesn't matter what your situation is or why you did it, just that they can show that they did something. Anything.

If you hadn't called it in, then there's a very good chance that nobody would ever know about it, nor would they care. Problem animals are a headache that the Game Wardens don't generally want to be bothered with. They are too busy dealing with the real criminals out there.

Just my opinion,
Eddie

 

[scesnick]

Eddie,

This is very true and I have learned my lesson. The main reason I called is that it dropped dead right on the edge of my field and someone bowhunting would have been sure to see it.
I work for the Fed's and I can not get caught doing something like this illegally.
There main problem was that I hit it ar 277 yards. Yes exactly 277yrds ( they measured it !!!!) They said " we don't think you can make that shot at the bear while it is on the run." It was a bear not a golf ball !! they are pretty big targets.
I had to tell them that I was on our SORT team at work as was the marksman observer. They quickly stopped in where I work to confirm this.
Like I said they wanted me pretty bad and I asked them if they could wait till I talked to my warden to tell him they were coming. Of course they didn't wait and I knew they wouldn't so I ran down to work on my day off to talk to my warden before they did.
The Warden is not the type that likes surprises like that.
My Warden still askes me if i have seen any more bears, and that incident was 4 years ago !!!

 

[knute_m]

Those of us in much of WV and western MD are all facing a problem with "relocated" bears.

(Sorry Scesnick -- if I were a hungry city bear, I'd much prefer the bird feeders and trash cans in Oakland over those in Davis!).

I don't dare look cross-eyed at the bears anymore. All I can hope for is that they will walk across the border.

It is very unfortunate, but many "problem" bears in Virginia, West Virginia, and Maryland are being relocated from populated areas into "rural habitats." They are tagged with Radio Frequency IDentification (RFID) tags before being released. If they disappear, someone comes looking for them.

I don't advocate breaking the law, but if you shoot one trying to crawl through your kitchen window, or eating your dog -- don't tell anybody. Just bury it as fast as you can.

If you do bury one, you better find a quick way to cover the tracks of your D8.

Please don't feed the bears,

Knute

 

[monkeymonk]

Last night was a lucky night for the Bear.

He got away........ soon oh very soon........of course at 4:30am I was in no condition for the charge straight up the forest behind the house........ naked..mag light flopping about must have gone a good 1/3 mile before I stopped and said to myself What the h*ll am I doing I'am naked its late and I sure as heck don't want to have to go any further for nothing ...........Sooo..........Tonite is another night unless Bruno (Bears name) is an everyother night kinda Gal/Guy

 

[knute_m]

of course at 4:30am I was in no condition for the charge straight up the forest behind the house........ naked..mag light flopping about must have gone a good 1/3 mile before I stopped and said to myself What the h*ll am I doing I'am naked its late and I sure as heck don't want to have to go any further for nothing ..........

MonkeyMonk,

Whew! What a picture!

I’m not surprised the bear ran away. I can't believe it would ever come back, unless it is a really really sick bear.

Even if I wasn’t a bear, I can’t imagine what my reaction would be, if at 4:30 AM, I spied a naked guy with a flopping mag light and gun, wandering in the woods. I know I'd stay a long long ways from that place!

Please keep us informed. This is getting good.

Knute

 

[Slamfire]

I shot one once in the Sierras. I was working at a hydro electric plant, and the kids got chased away from the school bus stop. Back then bear tags were $1. I had one, just because. They look a lot like a man, once you get the hide off.

 

[monkeymonk]

tonite is the every other night, I'll be waiting I packed a back pack with socks,pants,shirt,water and extra water. My next plan is a Hole trap i already have a 4x7 foot hole I'am thinking of making it 8x10 and covering it with stickers from the Mill, some duff and rotten chicken........Boom the bear falls in the dog wakes me up and its all over...............sounds tooooooo easy.
we will see what happens.

Scary how similar the bear looks to us humans once you skin em.
1 dollar! I probablly wasn't even born yet!Naaaa......... thats cheap

 

[hockeypuck]

I have learned my lesson never to call Fish and Game. I had a few bear around my house, never shot any but asked around as to what I should do. I have a 2 and a 4 year old, and the last thing I want them to be is a bear chew toy. It is nice to have some elbow room so nosey neighboors are not on your door step all of the time. It is also nice to have an excavator. That bear will be 10 foot deep with in a half hour. It is sad that the law makes you look over your shoulder while protecting your family.

Puck

 

[goaliedad]

triple s time for sure- shoot 'em, shovel 'em and shut up