B7800

[j48j48]

I am considering a B7800 w/fel for use around my small 5 acre outfit. So far it seems like the most tractor for the money. I've looked at Branson 2810 and 3510. New Holland TC 30, which is close, and TC29D. I'll take the hydro over the Branson's 12spd, even though they where a little less. We don't have a Kioti or Farmtrac dealer closer than Alb., About 200 miles from here. Oh yeah, I also looked at jinma's labeled as Farmpro's. Price was great, but just couldn't do it. JD and MF's where just way to high. Anybody out there have much experince with the B7800? Or another model I should look at? Thanks,KDJ j48j48

 

[tnmx]

i have a b7800 w/ fel, backhoe, boxblade, brushhog, and tiller attachments. i use this on my 5-acre place. all of my attachments are 60" width. the b7800 handles all well. the only bogging i notice is when running the 60" tiller through hard or very wet clay. it can handle it, i just hear the engine losing some rpm. i have killed the motor a few times (clutch did not slip - my bad setting) with the tiller when hitting roots about 3" in diameter or some unmoveable rocks. reality is that a b7800 is more tractor than is needed for a typical 5-acre place, but i like the power when moving dirt, etc... (we have a small motocross practice track). makes the farming i do very easy - i remember tilling my grandmothers garden with one of those walk behind beasts. the tiller behind the tractor is great! also the fact that it is easily trailerable has got me in to two new hunting leases... with 0% interest and the kubota retained value - made more sense than renting for my projects.

 

[j48j48]

Thanks for the info. Now if ya wanna hunt elk in New Mexico just drop that backhoe by for a few weeks and I'll guide for ya. Serously, I would like to pick up a backhoe later on, only enough money for one toy at a time. I have a 4 ft brush hog and S-Tine cultavator, 60" blade from my 2N, I hope to pick up a roto-tiller and small manure spreader with the tractor or shortly after. I have 3 acres of irrigated pasture and I raise a couple calves each year. My wife has 4 milk goats we run them with the calves. I have to clean out the barn about every other month and I need a spreader to put the manure on the pasture. Tired of doing it by hand. Always chores for a frontend loader or a tractor to do around here. I can also make a few points with my neighbors and that comes in handy later on. Thanks, j48j48

 

[Boone]

I really like the HST tranny, it makes running the tractor fun.

 

[MGmowing]

I have a B7800 too. We only use it for mowing ( commercial), tilling ( 5ft) and cleaning out pig pens. We built a manure fork for it and it works well. This tractor is great on slopes, open areas and good in the barn too. WE cut a a set of 3 soccer fields with the 7800 and a front mount kubota too. very good pair. i rate the 7800 at a 9/10 for a 30 hp tractor. We have had it for a year, and ive put it a 190 hours on it, i basically live on it. Very nice setup, i think youll enjoy one if u get one.

 

[Poppa]

I got a B7800 a year ago and i love it. More than enough power for five acres and yet it is very maneuverable. I use it for mowing, moving snow and moving dirt. In fact you might catch the same disease as me once you get the FEL. All of a sudden all the dirt on the west side of the property needs to be on the east side of the property /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

As for caveats...as you probably know, the B7800 is the economy version of the B2910 or the new B3030. The 3ph does not have position control which as far as I can tell is only a problem if you are used to that. I wasn't so I never really think about it. My one complaint is with the turnbuckle check chains on the lower lift rods. They don't hold the lift arms out so whenever I back up to an implement I always have to jump and off to get them spread and then jump back on to back up. I don't know if that makes sense but believe me you will know what i mean about two minutes after trying to hook up to something. I know of two solutions. One is to buy the telescoping stabilizers that go on the B2910. I guess others have done this for about 150.00. The other idea I've seen here somewhere is to make spacers that hold the arms apart but don't get in the way of the hook up. I think I could do this with a couple pieces of PVC pipe and I might try it since I am not in the mood to drop 150.00 right now.

Anyway, lots of words for a relatively small problem. Overall I absolutley love the machine and would buy it again in a heartbeat.


Mike

 

[aloha]

I agree with you that the B7800 offers the most tractor for the money in this class. You do need to keep in mind that it is a lightweight. This has advantages, but can mean that it loses traction in conditions that a heavier tractor would handle better.

While I like the sound of position control, the quarter inching 3PH has never bothered me, and I would not pay much to upgrade to position control.

I am one of those people who switched to the telescoping stabilizers for the 3PH lower links after stripping a turnbuckle check chain. It makes it much easier to attach implements, and seems much stronger.

Be sure to get a folding ROPS. If you get a backhoe later you will need one. Even if you don't, it seems to give better protection.

You would want to consider a larger brush hog. I use 60"

You can get a 54" or 60" bucket for the FEL. I have always found the 54" adequate. It seems to be made of heavier materials, and can be a benefit in tight locations. But moving manure might be a reason for the larger bucket.

 

[j48j48]

Thanks for the replies, my computer has been down for a few days and I just got it going agin last night. I know the B7800 is lighter than most, but I'll still have the 2N if I need it. I like the small size for manuvering in the stalls, they are 12' by 8'. I will have the tires filled with methenol for extra traction. I'll post some pic's if and when I get it. Thanks agin, KDJ

 

[JT1972]

In your search for an economy 30 HP tractor, I would look at the New Holland TC30 also. Here are some items to look at when you are examining each tractor. Again comparing apples to apples, the TC30 has a few key advantages I think you should be aware of.

TC30 Compact Tractor
The New Holland TC30 is a value priced compact
tractor with 30 gross engine horsepower. It is available
with a 3-speed hydrostatic transmission (24 PTO hp) or
a 9x3 gear transmission (25.5 PTO hp). It is available in 2WD or 4WD.

B7800 Compact Tractor
Kubota offers the B7800 as a 30 gross engine horsepower
tractor. However, it is only available as a 3 speed
hydrostatic transmission. It has only 22 horsepower at
the PTO. The B7800 is only offered with FWD

NH Seat Superior Operator Comfort
Benefits
•Comfortable cushioned seat
•Seat adjustment on inclined plane for optimum
visibility and access to controls
•Arm rests available
Value
•Better vision results in safer operation
•Comfortable platform results in less operator fatigue
•Deck adjusts to every operator

Kubota Seat
•Smaller seat, low back design
•Horizontal seat adjustment only with limited suspension

TC30 Hydrostatic Power Steering
Benefits
•Smooth effortless control, even with heavy loads
•Modern technology
•Steering rods hidden behind axle
Value
•More responsive steering reduces cycle times
•No extra linkage, so fewer parts and more durable
•Steering rods and cylinder protected from damage

Kubota B7800 Integral Power Steering
•Increased steering efforts
•Steering rods in front of axle are more susceptible to
harm
•Old technology, slower response

TC30 Electrical Power
Benefits
• 40 amp High capacity for lighting
•Can operate additional functions
Value
•Better charging in cold weather climates

B7800 Electrical Power
•25 amp alternator
•Extra cost for larger alternator

TC30 Heavy Duty Rear Axle
Benefits
•Rugged castings, heavy duty cast iron
•Extra strength, long life with heavy use
Value
•Heavier construction equals long term reliability
•Can handle heavier implements
•Safer, more stable tractor

Kubota B7800 Lighter Rear End
•Fabricated steel trumpet housings
•Lighter weight, less stable
•Less capacity for heavy implements

TC30 Heavy Duty Axle Hubs
Benefits
•Heavy duty design
•Large axle flange to distribute load
•8 bolt hubs
Value
•More durable equipment over long term
•More productive with larger, heavier tools

B7800 Small Rear Axles
•Light weight axles
•Smaller axle flanges
•Only 6 bolt hubs

TC30 Serviceability
Benefits
•Can check oil without raising the hood
•Can gain complete access to engine
•Air cleaner restriction light
Value
•Convenient service saves time, more productive
•No tools required for routine maintenence
•Proper maintenance leads to longer life

B7800 Service Access
•More panels to open / remove
•Must raise hood just to check oil, and dipstick is too
close to the exhaust pipe
•Requires a funnel to reach oil fill location

TC30 3-pt. Hitch Ability
Benefits
•Rugged, heavy construction
•1,635 lb. lift capacity
•Exterior sway chains
Value
•More reliable in long term with heavy use
•Quicker, easier attachment and adjustment of implements
•Finish the job faster with larger implements

B7800 3-pt. Hitch
•Light weight design
•1,300 lb. lift capacity
•Sway limiters are inside the 3-pt. and blocked when an implement is attached

Some key points I would compare if you are buying an economy tractor for the same money. Good luck.

 

[grizzjeeper]

I would like to add my opinions on both the tc30 and hst7800.

I am at the same crossroads and tried them both back to back, here is my personal opinion.

I had my heart set on the TC30 before I drove it.

NH is heavier, but I do not agree with more mass = stonger equipment. I mean the chinese have always added more mass to give the impression the unit is "stronger" Not saying this is the case here but something to think about non the less with other models. Look at tools....

Anyway.

Comfort I felt way out of place on the TC30, just didnt feel refined like the HST7800. I am 5.10 200 lbs and found everything to be in better reach for me.

Visibility, Couldnt see a **** thing on the TC30, the loader blocks most of the view, would not recomend for precision work,

HST
TC30 was a dog at idle, HST was almost unusable, HST seemed to suck more power from the TC30.

Loader lift capacity was not up to par with HST7800, small difference but there non the less.

Engineering, I think that the Kubota has a better engineering record then a farmed out compact. I think in the long run Kubota would come out on top in longevity.

Just my opinion...