B7510 Turf Special

[orangebluegreen]

Tried out a B7510 Turf Special today and was curious about this supposed dreaded quarter inching valve. The stops on the slider were set far apart. Seemed to operate the same as position control to me. There was no weight on the 3-point though so maybe that’s why??? It stopped anywhere I wanted and didn’t jump at all, very smooth. I once rented a Kubota (don’t remember the model but it was a 4 post factory canopy) and the 3-point control on that was absolute awful and mounted way too low. My hand was raw and blistered when I was done using it and it was VERY jerky and rough. This is what I was expecting with the quarter inching but wasn’t so. I have read that position control doesn’t leak down.....I’ve always had 3-points leak down some regardless of design so wondering does the 1/4”er actually leak down more than position control? Sure seemed to operate the same to me, but again, without weight on the 3-point. The valve part numbers are different so there must be something.

My local dealer didn’t have a deck on the machine and it had R4’s but had the Turf Special sticker. I asked for a price and got one for the tractor only that most other dealers sell tractor and deck for. When I enquired about the suspended RCK60B75B deck that is supposed to go with a Turf Special he had no idea what I was talking about and couldn’t find any such thing in his price book. I know it’s there if they had updated their books, I have it myself...pretty bad when I as a consumer have the entire parts breakdown but my dealer doesn’t. I am now suspecting that rather than being over priced perhaps we just have uninformed and don’t know that what makes a Turf Special what it is would be the DECK and not the sticker. I wish these guys would get their act together or Kubota would get us a REAL dealer who is more interested in being competitive rather than turning people and dealers in to the state when they don’t collect state tax from out of state buyers. I’ve been told by two salesmen at the same dealer now that they do this. Perhaps they think they are trying to keep people from buying out of state, what a joke....personally I would be tempted to rearrange the cosmetic facial features of one who did that to me. Must be nice to have a protected monopoly, be incompetent, and still make money. Had hoped to see some of the TC24/26’s there also but he told me they don’t have much interest in them. Maybe that’s because they don’t have any and no one would ever buy from them if they are not willing to wake up and realize the world is not flat and the customer can shop anywhere in this country. Hey, at least I got to drive one....if they want to sell one is up to them. Wonder if DOT is forced to buy from them? Maybe that’s how they survive?

 

[Volfandt]

Good thing you're up on it. I've never seen a Turf Special without the suspended MMM & turf tires.
Matter of fact, thats what makes it a Turf Special!

The Turf Special w/the suspended MMM and turf tires is supposed to be a package deal that prices in less than a std B7510 w/the std 60" MMM!.

Sounds like this dealer is either trying to pull a fast one or doesn't know his product line.
Shame....

Volfandt

 

[orangebluegreen]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Good thing you're up on it. I've never seen a Turf Special without the suspended MMM & turf tires.
Matter of fact, thats what makes it a Turf Special!

The Turf Special w/the suspended MMM and turf tires is supposed to be a package deal that prices in less than a std B7510 w/the std 60" MMM!.

Sounds like this dealer is either trying to pull a fast one or doesn't know his product line.
Shame....
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Exactly on all points. I got to thinking later....if a guy comes in this dealer (or told on the phone as I was) and expects a Turf Special as it says on the side of the machine, what in the world is he going to get for a deck? Would love to know if a Turf Special comes complete with deck when ordered....I assume it is a total package as you suggest. I asked do they come as Turf Specials or do they add a sticker at the dealer, the answer was they come that way. So next question would be....where is the deck? As you said it’s not a Turf Special without that suspended deck. He did say it came in with turf tires but they took them off for some reason. I’m not sure if they are trying to pull a fast one or just don’t know the product, in this area it can be either, will add also these fellows are not spring chickens. They are trying to price tractor and deck separately as you would normally with other tractors, problem is this takes the price much higher than it should be. If that’s on purpose I don’t know but there is a band of dealers in this area that all advertise together and IMO appear they are also price fixing together. Bad enough I was told 10,372 for tractor only (higher than many dealers for tractor including deck as it should) but then gave me a price of 3500 for Bush Hog loader and never gave me a price on a deck because it couldn’t be found. I suspect they are in a back section of their book. Found another Turf Special today while traveling on business, they wanted 11,300....it was used 26 hours and looked like it had been used to mow rail road tracks! When you tell them a new one can be bought for far less elsewhere you get the deer in the headlights look.

This entire SW Fla area is always the same regardless of what you’re buying. They think because you are surrounded on three sides by water they have you trapped and you are going to pay 25% more than elsewhere. On top of that they don’t even try to educate themselves. It is a HUGE problem in SW Fla and all of Fla. Most people who move here are appalled and move away in a couple of years. It is a protectionist state where all businesses have some sort of license requirements. With the hurricane damage here, at many I75 exits you’ll find a sign that says unlicensed contracting is a felony in Florida. So now you have damaged houses and not enough workers or contractors. I have a friend who was quoted 10-12,000 to put new shingles on his 1300 sq ft house! He is actually going to pay 6000 for the job and thinks it’s a deal! Protectionism in this state has caused price gouging and “could care less” attitudes in this area that is beyond belief. It was bad before, but worse now.

On a good note.....
Also visited a Ferris dealer (out of this area) who I previously had thought was very good and honest (Country Village Power Equipment). He had most of what I wanted to see put away for winter and wasn’t at that location today to dig it out for me. A customer who happened to hear me talking to the dealer/owner on the phone said “I bought one and I’m so pleased with it (an IS3000ZL) and this dealer, that you are welcome to follow me home and try mine out” What a difference in people, and what a great offer! Of course I dragged the wife out to his horse farm and took him up on the offer....now that’s good PR. What a great gesture to know a customer was trying to help his dealer sell a machine he really liked. BTW....he also had a Kubota sitting there for bigger projects and lest anyone think it’s just me....talking to this fellow he sounded exactly like my ranting about prices and arrogant dealers in this area because he had encountered the same ones and same attitudes. He couldn’t buy his L-Series from his Kubota dealer a couple miles from home because of it, but he only had to travel another 15-20 miles or so.

 

[MowHoward]

Yep. I ran across a dealer that pulled the same thing on me. Told me that the tractor didn't come with the deck. BS, just walk out. Took me awhile, but there are some good deals out there. Each dealer is different, some are looking to make thousands off of the deal...walk out and get on the phone. Don't be afraid to drive a bit either...it is the same tractor everywhere.
Mow

 

[Rod in Forfar]

Without a loader I have opted to use two opposing arms from my car hoist and a loop of chain to lift the front for mower installation. It takes about 4 minutes, on or off.