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I was able to get one of the 16 foot ledger boards up today. Heavy board, climbing up and down scaffolding, trimming high spots with chainsaw,......

Whew, I am bushed.
 
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Finished the other ledger board and I have half of the joists up. Slow and steady. I am 70 and working alone, so safety comes before speed. No deadlines makes it easier.
 
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I am getting to the point where I need to order the door for upstairs. I originally thought French doors, but they both do not need to open, so probably one of those where one half is window and the other half the door. I know there is a name for that, but i forget it.
Anyway, my wife would prefer an out swing. What are the pros and cons of an out-swing vs. an in-swing?
 
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Exterior doors swing in because the seals stop moisture from getting past the door. There are special doors for outswing that are sealed differently, but they are very expensive. If you install a standard exterior door with the door swinging out, you will allow moisture to get into the space between the door and jam.

The other issue is the hinges will be exposed and it's easy to remove the pins and remove the door. There are guards to stop this but they cost more and they are ugly.
 
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Exterior doors swing in because the seals stop moisture from getting past the door. There are special doors for outswing that are sealed differently, but they are very expensive. If you install a standard exterior door with the door swinging out, you will allow moisture to get into the space between the door and jam.

The other issue is the hinges will be exposed and it's easy to remove the pins and remove the door. There are guards to stop this but they cost more and they are ugly.

Thanks Eddie!
 
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I am getting to the point where I need to order the door for upstairs. I originally thought French doors, but they both do not need to open, so probably one of those where one half is window and the other half the door. I know there is a name for that, but i forget it.
Anyway, my wife would prefer an out swing. What are the pros and cons of an out-swing vs. an in-swing?

You can get Anderson French door with 1 active panel and 1 fixed. Mine swing in.
 
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I have a French door with 2 active panels that swing out. The hinges are security hinges and look just like a normal hinge. First, the pin is captured meaning you can't knock it out. Second, even if you cut the barrel off there is a pin in the hinge that penetrates both hinges when the door is closed that keeps the door from being opened. A package of 3 security hinges shows as $20 on a google search and you can use a set of security hinge pins for $12 also on a google search. And they look like normal hinges until you open the door and look at them. All my outside doors are inset from the weather so they do not get direct exposure. The biggest risk I see is the latch, so be sure to use a deadbolt as well.

The out-swing do seal differently than in-swing, but the out-swing have a better seal IMO. The threshold also helps direct water to the outside better with an outswing. I've not seen a significant price difference between the in-swing and out-swing when I was looking at doors. The out-swing don't acomodate a screen door very well.
 
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I have a French door with 2 active panels that swing out. The hinges are security hinges and look just like a normal hinge. First, the pin is captured meaning you can't knock it out. Second, even if you cut the barrel off there is a pin in the hinge that penetrates both hinges when the door is closed that keeps the door from being opened. A package of 3 security hinges shows as $20 on a google search and you can use a set of security hinge pins for $12 also on a google search. And they look like normal hinges until you open the door and look at them. All my outside doors are inset from the weather so they do not get direct exposure. The biggest risk I see is the latch, so be sure to use a deadbolt as well.

The out-swing do seal differently than in-swing, but the out-swing have a better seal IMO. The threshold also helps direct water to the outside better with an outswing. I've not seen a significant price difference between the in-swing and out-swing when I was looking at doors. The out-swing don't acomodate a screen door very well.

You had me until the last sentence. A screen door is a HIGH priority.

Thanks.
 
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The hinges on the outside would not be a HUGE concern, as this is a 2nd floor deck with no outside stairs. If somebody wanted to break in, it would be a lot easier to break a downstairs window than climb up and try the upstairs door.
And I have an 8 ft overhang, so its somewhat protected from weather, unless its raining sideways.
 

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