Attention first time tractor buyers some really good helpful advice.

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What size tractor. The best advice is to read all you can on these forms. But the short answer is buy the biggest tractor you can afford. For the job you need. Anything under 5 acres most tractors between the 20 to 35 horse should be fine. A cab is not necessary. always nice. Anything above 5 acres but smaller than 40 acres doing any kind of moving dirt, land Improvement, small scale farming , you need to start looking at the min. Of 40 to 60 horsepower range. If you can afford a cab to get it, you will not regret it.

A Must, and do not let anybody talk you out these accessories .
more than three rear Attachments. Please do yourself a favor I dont care if you got adjustable arms, The ability to raise your hydraulics from the back of the tractor. Or John Deers set up you can move the tractor back-and-forth from the back. Get yourself a quick hitch.

For the first six months of owning my tractor not having a quick hitch what a pain in the ***. The dealer I asked him when I was buying my new tractor said I dont need the quick hitch. Because with my expandable arms and rear lift I should be fine. ********.!!!

Once I got the quick hitch it was the best money spent. Under $ 200 . Which included a PTO extender, bushings for my five implements , a larger top hook. If you get the Harbor freight model. The next Best money spent make sure you get a hydraulic top link.

By the way on the topic of the hydraulic top link if you decide to use the Pats quick hitch system versus the quick hitch. Pros and cons to both systems, buy a longer hydraulic top link. And a restrictor for the hydraulic line its five bucks but it makes a difference. And make sure you get your rear tires filled.

If you can and need a backhoe which I did not purchase. Get it. I really thought I needed it for a few small projects. Do Yourself a favor and Look into a stump bucket. I was very skeptical at first. But for $500 to $800 bucks I was very surprised at how well this worked, its now my favorite bucket.

As an example I have a creek the prior owner of my property filled in with rocks and boulders 20 feet long six feet wide to cross. It was nasty uneven and dangerous to cross. I needed a culvert and do it the right way which I did. At first I thought for sure I needed a back hole. I thought about renting one for the day . Instead I bought a stump bucket it works great. They are great for digging like a backhoe. Do your research on them. Again good money well spent versus spending 6 k to 10 k on a backhoe

Especially if your just doing minor stuff like moving some stumps. Digging some trenches in my case digging out a rock filled creek. To drop in a culvert. Hopefully this helps this is coming from experience. You will love your new tractor just take your time and do a lot of research.
 
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I would have to say this could be a good thread... I do respectfully disagree with your tractor "sizing". I don't think there is one size tractor that fits "whatever". I'm at 28 acres and 28 hp, it's more than enough for me to get done what I want. I look at it a bit differently.

If you are making money (as a business or if your time is money) bigger could be better, but sometimes, it's just bigger. The tractor needs to "fit" your tasks at hand... Try driving a 60 hp tractor to mowing your front yard.... I do drive tractors in the 70 to 110 hp range at work, with cabs, they are nice but for my needs, I have a small open station and love it more.

I prefer smaller, able to go places a larger tractor just can not fit. I've got time, I enjoy using my tractor so if I have to make another trip around, no problem and nothing needs to be finished today. Smaller tractor can get the same work done as large tractors but it takes them a longer time. AND it did not break the bank buying it.

"... biggest tractor you can afford...", I would agree to this if it included the price of the tractor, remotes, a grapple (a must have), Top-N-Tilt, and several implements to actually allow the tractor to preform work (implements / quick hitches). The bigger the tractor, the more the implements cost so the fewer you can buy...

Expandable arms are great, what didn't work for you? My quick hitch is sitting in my barn, dusty and un-used for years. I now use Pat's and I don't think I'll needed anything more. I'm a junkie when it comes to implements, (3?!?!) I have 35 or so and several that I've never used but one day I might need it... all used and only a few QH compatible.
 
   / Attention first time tractor buyers some really good helpful advice. #3  
What size tractor. The best advice is to read all you can on these forms. But the short answer is buy the biggest tractor you can afford. For the job you need. Anything under 5 acres most tractors between the 20 to 35 horse should be fine. A cab is not necessary. always nice. Anything above 5 acres but smaller than 40 acres doing any kind of moving dirt, land Improvement, small scale farming , you need to start looking at the min. Of 40 to 60 horsepower range. If you can afford a cab to get it, you will not regret it. Trust me.
A Must, and do not let anybody talk you out these accessories .
more than three rear Attachments. Please do yourself a favor I dont care if you got adjustable arms, The ability to raise your hydraulics from the back of the tractor. Or John Deers set up you can move the tractor back-and-forth from the back. Get yourself a quick hitch. For the first six months of owning my tractor not having a quick hitch what a pain in the ***. The dealer I asked him when I was buying my new tractor said I dont need the quick hitch. Because with my expandable arms and rear lift I should be fine. ********.!!! Once I got the quick hitch it was the best money spent. Under $ 200 . Which included a PTO extender, bushings for my five implements , a larger top hook. If you get the Harbor freight model. The next Best money spent make sure you get a hydraulic top link. By the way on the topic of the hydraulic top link if you decide to use the Pats quick hitch system versus the quick hitch. Pros and cons to both systems, buy a longer hydraulic top link. And a restrictor for the hydraulic line its five bucks but it makes a difference. And make sure you get your rear tires filled. If you can and need a backhoe which I did not purchase. Get it. I really thought I needed it for a few small projects. Do Yourself a favor and Look into a stump bucket. I was very skeptical at first. But for $500 to $800 bucks I was very surprised at how well this worked, its now my favorite bucket. As an example I have a creek the prior owner of my property filled in with rocks and boulders 20 feet long six feet wide to cross. It was nasty uneven and dangerous to cross. I needed a culvert and do it the right way which I did. At first I thought for sure I needed a back hole. I thought about renting one for the day . Instead I bought a stump bucket it works great. They are great for digging like a backhoe. Do your research on them. Again good money well spent versus spending 6 k to 10 k on a backhoe Especially if your just doing minor stuff like moving some stumps. Digging some trenches in my case digging out a rock filled creek. To drop in a culvert. Hopefully this helps this is coming from experience. You will love your new tractor just take your time and do a lot of research.

You lost me when you typed "trust me".
 
   / Attention first time tractor buyers some really good helpful advice.
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I would have to say this could be a good thread... I do respectfully disagree with your tractor "sizing". I don't think there is one size tractor that fits "whatever". I'm at 28 acres and 28 hp, it's more than enough for me to get done what I want. I look at it a bit differently. Well that works for you I’m just writing from my experience working on my 17 acre farm and the amount of work and lifting and earth moving but I needed to do. I don’t believe I ever said one size tractor that’s whatever I was just making a general but there’s always exceptions to the rules.

If you are making money (as a business or if your time is money) bigger could be better, but sometimes, it's just bigger. The tractor needs to "fit" your tasks at hand... Try driving a 60 hp tractor to mowing your front yard.... I do drive tractors in the 70 to 110 hp range at work, with cabs, they are nice but for my needs, I have a small open station and love it more.
I personally like the cabs quieter, less dusty climate controls the Way to go dude.

I prefer smaller, able to go places a larger tractor just can not fit. I've got time, I enjoy using my tractor so if I have to make another trip around, no problem and nothing needs to be finished today. Smaller tractor can get the same work done as large tractors but it takes them a longer time. AND it did not break the bank buying it. Depending on the circumstances in the situation I would agree with this.

"... biggest tractor you can afford...", I would agree to this if it included the price of the tractor, remotes, a grapple (a must have), Top-N-Tilt, and several implements to actually allow the tractor to preform work (implements / quick hitches). The bigger the tractor, the more the implements cost so the fewer you can buy...

Expandable arms are great, what didn't work for you? My quick hitch is sitting in my barn, dusty and un-used for years. I now use Pat's and I don't think I'll needed anything more. I'm a junkie when it comes to implements, (3?!?!) I have 35 or so and several that I've never used but one day I might need it... all used and only a few QH compatible.
They worked fine the quick hitch just made the job so much easier and quicker.
 
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You lost me when you typed "trust me".

I made it to stump bucket digs like a backhoe. Lots of newbie assumptions. And I’m still a newbie.
 
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Acreage is a poor criteria for HP needed. The tasks that need to be done, VS the time you have to do them, VS your wallet, VS reality, will most likely be the main criteria when determining what size machine you need VS what size machine you end up with.
 
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Effective tractor size is almost as critical as effective paragraph use.
 
   / Attention first time tractor buyers some really good helpful advice.
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Agreed but my synopsis is based upon in general in my personal experience.
 
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You and Jeff should get together and compare notes. ;)
 
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^^ Was there something in there about the weight of a bear?
 

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