Are we in the USA really this far behind?

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   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #11  
While there are loaders for these tractors, the arms have to be very long to clear the nose and makes for a cumbersome loader and very little capacity. Plus, a loader it's an easy and fast way to destroy the pivot point and even break castings.
If it destroys the pivot point and breaks castings to put a loader on them, then they are just poorly engineered, at least for the North American market. Put a three point on the back of a mini wheel loader and you could do everything that does and then move snow or load dirt and gravel all day with out any worries about the castings or the pivot point.

These tractors are specialized tractors meant to be used in orchard, vineyards, greenhouses and hilly ground

As you said they are purpose built for a market, they aren't more advanced. There is little danger these will come along and take over the CUT market any time soon.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #12  
Articulating front loaders are common here in the USA. They run for decades with no pivot point issues. I would think the tractors in the OP just are not made well enough for a front loader. They seem designed to meet certain needs and appear to be good at doing so.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #13  
They look like they would be fun to play with for a summer, but I don’t think I would spend serious money for one, given the chore list my tractors need to do every day. No FEL is a deal killer, and any acrobatics needed to get in the seat, that’s a deal killer too.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #14  
Why no front end loaders on any of those tractors?
That's just it. 👍
It's not nearly the same market that the American kubota "B" or similar buyers are buying.
They may be small, but there's not any small in the price of those machines.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #15  
I should've have clarified that I wasn't referring to the articulation pivot points. I was referring to the tilt left/right pivot point. Yes articulated loaders work just fine, however the pivot is on the rear axle. While on these Isodiametric tractors, the front half pivots in relation to the rear half, to create the same articulation of the front axle on a conventional tractor. A loader puts tremendous stresses on this pivot point.


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However, these can still be used with a loader and most of the times with a forklift mast, just no the conventional way.

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Sure, it can have front loaders as well but these have very low lifting capacity. These tractors also have around 60% of the weight in the front.


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   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #16  
European tractors tend to be very compact, that's why you don't see crazy amounts of leg room. They are made so compact, that we have 100HP+ tractors available that have the same size as a Kubota L6060.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #17  
They are an interesting and intriguing setup.
What they are designed for they can do very well.
They are excellent for vineyards and maybe orchards.
As a general purpose tractor in this county they don't have it.
A mowing brush hogging contractor I know had one, his had the wide tires and
you would have thought it would be great for brush hogging in the wetter boggy
areas, nope it couldn't handle the rougher soft ground with those short tires.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #18  
I didn't see anything over 200hp. No American farm is going to get crops in or out with a glorified golf cart.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #19  
As you said they are purpose built for a market, they aren't more advanced. There is little danger these will come along and take over the CUT market any time soon.

No one said otherwise. Specially considering that the common American completely misses the point and use of this style of tractors. They're called specialized tractors for a reason, to fit specific types of farms and ground. No, it's not a conventional tractor used as a glorified snow pusher or lawn mower.

As far as being advanced, well, these come with front and rear diff locks as standard, multiple PTO speeds, a PTO speed specific to power trailers, optional 3 pt down pressure, reversible platform, front 3 pt hitch and more stuff.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #20  
European tractors tend to be very compact, that's why you don't see crazy amounts of leg room.
Sheesh, most CUTs are tight enough with leg room as it is, can't see myself with something that has even less.
But yes in general we’re decades behind foreign innovation.
How so? The only thing I can think of is headlight standards.
 
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