Are our grandkids getting too sissified?

   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #61  
Hmmm. You lived in LOT rougher neighborhood than where I grew up. Dad was always armed (even though it was against the law to carry concealed in those days), but I don't remember him having to ever use it. I think things were a little rougher back in the 20's and 30's when he grew up, but I think most of the "indians" had been defeated by the time I was a kid. :) Oh there were criminals around and you heard about some bad things that happened occasionally, but I bet your Gary/Chicago locality was a lot rougher than Aurora/Verona Missouri back in the 60"s. Apparently I am somewhat older than you also.

Seems we are a cross-roads between Chicago and Detroit.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #62  
WOW, Sigarms!! You are TOUGH!! And those cows must have been tough too for them to be chased off after you slaughtered them! :laughing:

When you walked three miles to school, was it uphill - BOTH ways - barefoot, and having to carry your brother on your back? :laughing:

And we only had one shoe to share, and it was a girl's shoe!
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #63  
And we only had one shoe to share, and it was a girl's shoe!

We shared the girl...when she took her shoes off, and sometimes when she didn't.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #64  
I started a thread a while back... it was about taking my nieces and nephew around in antique or classics I restored... the kids love it... but it caused too many problems... as I driver I have never had a ticket, inebriated etc... and those that restore cars are often the most careful... still remember the grandmother of one of the girls telling me they were out shopping... and the 6 year old yelled Grandma, Grandma... and then said have you ever seen a more beautiful motor pointing to a street rod... she then started pointing out different parts of the engine... water pump, alternator, starter... warms my heart.

Buckled in the child seat in the right seat of the restored 62 Corvette and took my then 3 year old out for ice cream... as I had her for the day... she absolutely loved it and noticed right away others waving or giving the thumbs up which she returned saying people are happy to see us... this was just a cross town trip and never over 30 mph...

My Sister in Law said my niece had such a great day and thanked me very much... later, my brother said NEVER to take the kids anywhere again in an old car because they are dangerous... no matter she was in a car seat seat belted in...

Of course the Horseless Carriages and Model A/T don't really have anything in the way of modern safety equipment.

All I can say is I'm very glad for the time I spent on my Grandparents Diary Farm... my love of tractors started at age 4 when I was going up and down the windrows gathering hay... barefoot and all.

Back home I grew up in East Oakland... walked past the *HeII's Angles Club House and the Black Panthers were always doing something plus lots of other groups... Weather Underground, Symbionese Liberation Army, Black Power, Earth First... etc...

Today... every 10 year old has a cell phone... most are tracked and no one walks to school anymore... kids are driven everywhere... and Stranger Danger is ingrained...

Those that say growing up in the bucolic 60's and 70's were a walk in the park have no idea of what they speak... or they were not walking past the HeII's Angles or Panthers on the way to school.

Last year I gave my nephew a mint 96 Ford F150... 4wd... not a ding in the bed... a different Sister in Law said you made your nephew one happy boy... he was 15 and loved that truck with a 5 speed and straight 6.

My brother was not at all happy... saying there is only one airbag... etc.

I had planned to give cars to all the kids with good grades etc... but the reactions have changed my plans... when they were younger they loved coming for a visit and eager to help me on anything project I had in the shop... but this also didn't go over well... so what can you do but respect the parents wishes and leave it at that... the nephew had a real steady hand at 12 for welding... again too dangerous.
 
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   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #65  
When you walked three miles to school, was it uphill - BOTH ways - barefoot, and having to carry your brother on your back? :laughing:

I really didn't want to sound like I was bragging, but it WAS uphill both ways.

Billy Bob (my little brother at the time) did have to ride my back. We use to play lawn darts ALL the time, and BB (as we use to call him) got a little to close to the ring trying to catch some yellow jackets (not paying attention was normal for him), and ended up taking one in the leg. When BB went down, my buddy Jim (on my side) let another dart go off just to see how close he could get to BB, but ended up getting his other leg. BB was a man about it, said he didn't need medical attention other than throwing some leeches on his leg. Sad to say, he ended up loosing both legs. Thus, I was generally the guy lugging BB around.

As far as tough neighborhoods, we lived in one. Kids use to steel hubcaps, while the car was moving, and the first words most babies learned was "mamma" and "duck!"
 
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   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #66  
By today's standards, '62 Corvettes are death traps.... but, man, every kid should ride in one with their uncle and go out for ice cream once in a while. :) While car seats keep kids from flying around inside the compartment in a wreck, and supporting their back and neck in a wreck, you get t-boned by an idiot in that car and its all over, adult or child. But if I had that car, I'd take my kids out for ice cream once in a while, too. You can't tip-toe around life too much. However, sometimes you have to weigh the risks and rewards. Sometimes life's little experiences are priceless.

I have my wife and kids in our '93 Suburban rarely. That thing, by today's standards, is also a death trap. No airbags. No crumple zones. Seat backs and head rests are inappropriate. Middle seats have no headrests. It's basically a metal box on metal beams. And that's being kind. I won't take them in it if I don't have to. But me, I'll ride around in it all day, every day. Go figure? :confused3:

There's trade-offs, experiences, common sense, etc.... when we had kids, I gave up drag racing my motorcycle, locked up the guns, child proofed the lower cabinets, locked up medications, got car seats, got safer vehicles, etc.... now that the kids are grown and self-sufficient, I think I'm a little less careful around myself, because I'm no longer responsible for them and they could get by if I croaked. But I'm still cautious when they're in the car with me. Not as much when they aren't.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #67  
Of course you are right... this is why I just respect the parent's wishes... notice that on all cases it was just one of the parents in each family...

Besides tractors at an early age some of my fondest memories were also vehicle related.

Will never forget the whole team piling into the back of coaches pickup after a game... the whole team of 8-10 year olds in the back of 1968 Chevy pickup... the ball field was about 3 miles down the road... no freeway or highway driving. It was often more fun than the game!

Another, that I can hardly believe looking back is when I was 16 me and my best friend drove from Oakland California to Vancouver Canada over Christmas break to visit his Uncle... this was a 1000 miles each way, in winter driving my 1971 Mustang Convertible with two 16 year olds... we promised not to drive at night and to stop half way to spend the night and call home each night... I had two sets of chains, it did snow going over the Siskiyous, blankets, food, flashlights, shovel... we were both Boy Scouts after all...

In so many ways this would not be possible today... 16 year olds can't drive other kids, checking into a motel 500 miles from home, driving into Canada, etc... sometimes I hardly believe it myself.

Zero problems... were totally capable and responsible and had such a great time we repeated the trip the next year and drove his 1970 Cadillac Eldorado...

It was like being given the keys to your life... and well before cell phones, call boxes, etc...

At 18 I bought a 68 Z28 outside of Charlottesville Virginia and flew to Atlanta with my 13 your old brother and drove the car to California... it was when the Air and Space museum had just opened... made several stops along the way... national parks, Monticello, the State Fair in Peoria... etc.

Moderation in all things... those that are responsible and demonstrate maturity are too often lumped in with those that don't.
 
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   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #68  
Yeah, I think I've mentioned before being in Boy Scouts going on a canoe trip, all the adult piling into one car, and me, the 16 year old, driving 5 fourteen year olds up to the U.P. of Michigan, at night.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #69  
Yeah, I think I've mentioned before being in Boy Scouts going on a canoe trip, all the adult piling into one car, and me, the 16 year old, driving 5 fourteen year olds up to the U.P. of Michigan, at night.

Yep... it was similar for High School field trips to Moss Landing, Fort Ross and Monterey... always student drivers including going to San Francisco.

We had one character in our class... he was 16 and had his pilots license... without saying anything he went to the Hayward airport and flew his group to the Half Moon Bay airport where his uncle kept a car... they left last and got there way ahead of everyone and were just finishing a meal when the rest of us arrived... again no cell phones.

It was quite the talk around High School... we drove, they flew!

Somehow there was never an issue... lucked out one time in that I had the car with 5 cheerleaders... 72 Olds Cutlass 442 Convertible... good memories.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #70  
Funny how back in high school the guy with the car (me), somehow always was "needed" to give a girl a ride somewhere. :laughing: The last one I gave a ride to was my wife! :D
 

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