Anyone use a tree and post puller on a Kobota MX5800, Grand L series or Kioti NX6010?

[dbchaplin03]

JJP,

We’ve taken out close to 60 locust trees so I don’t want to mess with fluid or weights. The thorns of those thing are awful! Finally slimed out ATV tires because of flats. Skidsteer had around 6 flats on brand new tires which was irritating. Don’t want to have any difficulties being able to remove a tire.

My plan Is to get a cat2 ballast box and fill it full of cement. I should be able to get 1100-1400 lbs back on the 3point if I am needing more ballast than a brush hog can provide

 

[jjp8182]

Makes sense to me. While I doubt it'll be needed, the wheel weights shouldn't get in the way of tire removal unless they are of a different design than mine. The ones on the L3560 attach to the inner hub only and don't interfere with access to any of the wheel mounting hardware. Just for informational purposes I've attached a picture of the full set installed.



However, if you can do what you need to without having to add wheel weights or liquid ballast (or worse resorting to foam-filled tires) that'd be ideal.

One of the things I forgot to mention earlier was that with the Intimidator upfront, and a 700-800lb finishing mower on the back a short wheel base (like on the L3560) can mean the two implements on either end make the tractor a bit bouncy in a teeter-tottering way. It's usually not a problem as all the wheels stay on the ground, but it's something to be aware of since it can occasionally be a bit unexpected and cause further operator induced rocking. First couple times it happened, I mistook it for the start of the rear-wheels coming off the ground so reacted accordingly and my actions introduced additional rocking of the sort that had started to dampen out.

However, I haven't seen the problem arise when using shorter ballast implement (e.g. the box blade) on the back though, and that combined with the wheel weights pretty much eliminated the problem for me (which implies a heavier short ballast implement would likely work just as well).

Anyway best of progress (I've had to remove a few Bradford Pear trees that had spikes on them so I can definitely appreciate not wanting to deal with tire difficulties).

 

[Hozzie]

Hozzie,

I壇 buy the titan again because it is extremely well built. I took a chance when I ordered it and for the price it was great. Used it for over 100 hours on a 60hp skid steer and minus getting a little rusty and knocking an exposed hose loose every now and then it was great. In 100+ hours I never bent or damaged anything that needed replaced.

2 things. Only gripe I had was there is no grease zerks unless they致e changed the design over the last 1.5 years. Other thing I壇 if you call them with interest in something they値l often email you a discount code. When I bought mine it was around 15% off. They were having a big sale and I used the 15% off code and got it shipped to my house with liftgate service for $600 and some change.

Only drawback I can see on a tractor is the visibility piece because the opening isn稚 as large as other pullers. But for $600 what more could you ask for?

Thanks for the feedback. Certainly if I can get a 15 percent coupon it is a no brainer. I will call them.

 

[dbchaplin03]

JJP or anyone with experience with a Grand L or M series tractor,

I got back quotes on all the tractors i was looking at. I did a lot of research on the Grand L series and I think im in love with that HST+ transmission. Do you have any regrets with the 3560 you have JJP? Besides pulling honey suckle and trees here, I also would like to get a tractor for doing some landscaping, fencing and one that can eventually cut, rake, and small square or 4x4 round bale some hay. Of course I'd love to have the biggest tractor, most hp, heaviest load but most of what I'm doing now is in trees.. Below are the best prices i have so far (0% Kubota financing included):

L Series includes HST, 4x4, R-4's, Loader, and 3rd Function
L6060- $37,800
L5460- $36,200
L4760- $34,500

M5660SUHD- 4x4, loader, R-4s, 3rd function $33,900

M7060- 12/12 Powershuttle, 4x4, loader, R-4s, 3rd function, $39,700

With my calculations the L4760 is more than sufficient for anything i want to do here, but when we get ready to do some hay, I'm not sure it would be heavy enough with enough power. Weight you can add but PTO HP you only get one chance. The M5660 is not only the cheapest, but it has a 50% greater loader lift capactiy and 1k lb greater 3 pt lift and nearly the same PTO hp as the L6060. However the powershuttle is good for loader work, but the HST would be much better doing landscaping and in the trees.

I think i would prefer the smaller Grand L 90% of the time, especailly where we are now. But I know as we move and buy more land, I may want the stregnth of the M series.

 

[jjp8182]

For the most part I haven't had any regrets on the L3560 as most of what I do hasn't required a whole lot of hp at the PTO (not baling, & no rototiller as I specifically wanted to go the plow/disk harrow route). The most demand I've put on the PTO has been taking a 6ft finishing mower (using mulching blades) through pasture with grass that's 18-24-ish inches tall that might (occasionally) be a bit wet. In those cases I slow down and use 4-5ft of the 6ft deck as that has made me appreciate the stall-guard feature a time a or two.

However, I have really appreciated is that even with the R4 tires (which are/were same size tire across all the Grand Ls), the total width of my L3560 (as setup) is under 72" wide which in combination with the HST has made it possible to get into/through some small/tight spaces (i.e. a 72" implement having less than 1/2" clearance to either side). ...and for the curious: yes, I've actually done that example -- multiple times in single day; rubbed the paint on the box blade doing it a few times, but the wheels were always kept clear.

Really other than the PTO power, there also isn't a whole lot of difference in the implement limitations published in the manual between the top and bottom of the Grand L line (where differences exist). For example the 3560 has trailer weight limit of 2000kg (4400lbs) and the top three models have a trailer weight limit of 3000kg (6600lbs) with all models having the same drawbar load/tongue weight of 650kg (1430lbs). Box Blade published limits are 65" & 880lbs for the L3560 & L4060, and 72" & 1040lbs for all other Grand L's; sickle bar mower published limits are the same for all models at 84" & 1100lbs.

Though from what I've experienced, I suspect that Kubota is conservative in at least some of those limits as I've had a 72" version one of these: Category I & II Severe XTreme Duty Tractor Box Blade - Everything Attachments filled with a moderate-to-high clay content loam (in friable soil conditions) and in low range, low setting for range, 4WD engaged the tractor wasn't struggling in the least.

Regarding hay I've looked into that (semi-tempted to try that when/if I get more acreage), and while it might be possible to do hay with the Grand L's I think the issue would start being how well the tractor would handle the weight of the baler with a bale (especially if it's anything other than a light small square baler, or a compact baler for small tractors). While I could be very wrong, I'm not so sure the same issue wouldn't arise with the smaller M-series tractors (i.e. those below the M6060/M7060 & M4 ranges). By searching (via google) for the operator's manuals for different models/series you may be able to find Canadian versions in a pdf format that would allow you to see the implement specifications for that model/series.

As for cutting, tedding, and raking I suspect the Grand L's would work for a small operations with relatively short travel distances. In fact, I think the low fuel consumption would make them very tempting to use for those activities (I usually run wide open throttle and average <1 gal/hr).

Just my opinion, but depending on how far you're moving the resell value might be the deciding factor as it's been said by others before: the easiest way to move a tractor and implements cross country is in your wallet (in the form of money).