Anyone know about the CX50?

[Builder]

This tractor has my interest. Was looking at similar Kubota/Deer models.
Just need something to plow snow, cut with a 7' bushog and pull a 7' landscape rake.

Looks like it already has a mounting system for a plow or rotary broom.

CASE IH CX50 For Sale at TractorHouse.com

 

[pekabu]

I have used a newer CX75 (a little) and a older CX100 that looks exactly like that one (a lot). These were pulling a Barber Surf rake on the beach. The have preformed well. McCormick still makes that basic model CX but I haven't seen one that small. If it's in good condition and the price is right I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. I believe the run a perkins motor.

 

[Builder]

I have used a newer CX75 (a little) and a older CX100 that looks exactly like that one (a lot). These were pulling a Barber Surf rake on the beach. The have preformed well. McCormick still makes that basic model CX but I haven't seen one that small. If it's in good condition and the price is right I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. I believe the run a perkins motor.

OK, thanks. I thought it was a Shibauru diesel.

 

[Builder]

You were right, it is a Perkins diesel.

Anyone know if this tractor was made off-shore, or is it US made?

Think parts are a problem?

 

[pekabu]

Not exactly sure where they were made. I believe the current McCormick CX line is build in Doncaster England. When Case and NH joined they were forced to spin off some stuff, so some of the Case models were spun off as McCormick and the NH version took there place. I don't think parts are an issue being a Case, and the fact that McCormick has continued the line, so it's almost like you have two sources now.

 

[pekabu]

Wanted to add right now I am running McCormick CX105 that looks just like the Case CX's. Color is slightly different, but the controls and everything else look the same.

 

[Builder]

Not exactly sure where they were made. I believe the current McCormick CX line is build in Doncaster England. When Case and NH joined they were forced to spin off some stuff, so some of the Case models were spun off as McCormick and the NH version took there place. I don't think parts are an issue being a Case, and the fact that McCormick has continued the line, so it's almost like you have two sources now.

So you are saying the CaseIH CX50 is actually made by McCormick? Or vice-versa?

 

[pekabu]

What was the Case CX line is now the McCormick CX line. The new Cases are a NH machine (I beleive).

 

[pekabu]

This is from the McCormick website:


1999 Case seek a merger with New Holland, Shareholders agree and new company becomes Case New Holland Global N.V. (CNH)

E.U. regulatory authorities rubber stamp merger, providing that CNH divest themselves of the Doncaster Wheatley Hall Road plant and the 50 to 100hp C,CX and MXC tractors it produces along with the MX Maxxum production and engineering know how.

2000 After negotiations with various interested parties, the plant is purchased by “ARGO S.p.a” of Italy and it is announced that the Doncaster plant will become the global headquarters for McCORMICK TRACTORS INTERNATIONAL LTD.

Products from Doncaster will be sold world wide under the McCORMICK brand name.

Other sister companies under the ARGO name are:-
LANDINI
LAVERDA
VALPADANA
PEGORARO

2001 In January the E.U. authorities give their approval to the deal and McCORMICK TRACTORS INTERNATIONAL LTD start trading.

Within days our first overseas distributor is signed up ”Power Farming” of Morrinsville in New Zealand

2001 Negotiations continue between ARGO S.p.a. and CNH Global for the purchase of the CNH transmission facility at St DIZIER in France.

In April it is announced that CNH have sold St Dizier to ARGO, this now becomes McCORMICK France and the headquarters for operations in France.

The acquisition of St Dizier gives McCORMICK an operating base in France as well as control over the transmission build for now and the future.

With the acquisition the McCormick family grows to a total of 1100 people.

McCormick

 

[Builder]

OK, Thanks.

So after the merger in 1999-2000, CaseIH spun its' CX line off to McCormick, who continues to produce and sell them under the McCormick name while CaseIH now sells the DX line which is a rebadged/repainted New Holland.

Did I get it right?

Look at this Ford/NH. looks very similar to the CX50.
1997 NEW HOLLAND 4630 For Sale at TractorHouse.com

 

[pekabu]

Yes. I believe Case now has the JX or JXU series instead of the CX series. (I think there rebadged NH's, but I don't really know for sure). The DX series is smaller.

McCormick doesn't make a CX50 though. I've driven a Case JX75. The controls weren't as well laid out and it was pain to get into 4wd (It had some issues, the owner was in denial).

 

[Builder]

I don't understand the thinking behind the front 3 point mount on that CX50. Looks like it could only run a power angle plow. Otherwise there'd be a mid pto and a driveshaft to run a snowblower or broom, right?

Or can a broom or snowblower be run on "hydraulic" power only?

2000 CASE IH CX50 For Sale at TractorHouse.com

 

[pekabu]

It looks like it's setup for a snow plow. I do have a snowblower setup for Hydraulic power, it was for a skid steer. I own a smal NH, but I drive these tractors for a friend doing different jobs, beach cleaning, tractor pulling recovery tractor, sapping and such.

Most of the power brooms I see working on the highways around here are hydraulic.

 

[Builder]

It looks like it's setup for a snow plow. I do have a snowblower setup for Hydraulic power, it was for a skid steer. I own a smal NH, but I drive these tractors for a friend doing different jobs, beach cleaning, tractor pulling recovery tractor, sapping and such.

Most of the power brooms I see working on the highways around here are hydraulic.

So it's possible to run a snowblower or broom off hydraulics, not a mid PTO?

Now i have to find out how much pump flow this thing has.....

 

[pekabu]

Yes. I don't know what gpm the CX puts out. Here is one from Northern Hydraulics that needs from 11-18.8 gpms. Red Devil Skid Steer Loader Snow Blower — 2-Stage, 5-Ft. Cutting Width, Model# 9253S | Snow Blowers | Northern Tool + Equipment

The tractor I run on the beach powers the surf rake via a rear pto pump, so if the tractor doesn't have the GPM flow you can get around it.

 

[Builder]

Thanks, Dave. Here I thought a snowblower would require mid PTO and a front driveshaft kit. Makes sense that it could run on juice only, now that i think about it.

Now I just have to see why he wants 22.5K for a 7 yr old 50HP tractor with no implements. Seems like it's worth about 17-18K tops.

 

[pekabu]

Try doing a search on this site with CX50. I found this quote today by accident.

The first thing that I like to do when there is a problem is to make sure that everything is right. From time to time a tractor isn't running up to snuff. There are some that are just to heavy for the horsepower. Case-IH CX50 is one as well as it's predacesor and the model before that. The rear end is used all the way to what you call 100 horsepower but at fifty it would last 20,000 to 30,000 hours if you weren't in need of a power aggressive tractor.

 

[Builder]

"The first thing that I like to do when there is a problem is to make sure that everything is right. From time to time a tractor isn't running up to snuff. There are some that are just to heavy for the horsepower. Case-IH CX50 is one as well as it's predacesor and the model before that. The rear end is used all the way to what you call 100 horsepower but at fifty it would last 20,000 to 30,000 hours if you weren't in need of a power aggressive tractor."

Dave, I can't quite understand what he's saying. Is he saying the CX50 has a super heavy duty rear axle that will last 20-30,000 hrs? Or is he saying the tractor's rear axle weighs too much and hinders its' performance?

BTW: Lowest dealer is willing to sell is $20,250.

 

[pekabu]

I've never seen a CX50, but it looks to be the same size tractor that I have driven in th 75 and 100 hp sizes. If so, its a good size tractor, around 5k in weight I would gues. At 50hp it would be light on HP if you were planning on pulling a big dirt plow or other grunt work, but on the flip side your running gear would never be overpowered and break. I think that's the point Art was trying to make.

 

[Builder]

I've never seen a CX50, but it looks to be the same size tractor that I have driven in th 75 and 100 hp sizes. If so, its a good size tractor, around 5k in weight I would gues. At 50hp it would be light on HP if you were planning on pulling a big dirt plow or other grunt work, but on the flip side your running gear would never be overpowered and break. I think that's the point Art was trying to make.

OK, thanks. That's kinda what I figured. I only plan on using it as a utility tractor (mowing, snowplowing, landscape rake). No "farming" implements, like a bottom plow, etc. I actually contacted Art about it, too. He said he was a case salesman and said they were reliable heavy-built tractors.