Anybody using Amsoil diesel oil in kubota?

[Anonymous Poster]

Re: Anybody using Amsoid diesel oil in kubota?

I thought that in a diesel engine the oil getting dirty was a sigh that the oil was working as it should, absorbing the soot, etc.
Of course I do get into trouble by thinking sometimes.

 

[gsxr1100]

Re: Anybody using Amsoid diesel oil in kubota?

I have used Amsoil oils in my ford 1991 5.0 mustang, 1997 Ford diesel 7.3 l Powerstroke, Lexus ES300, Suzuki GSX-R1100w (pushing over 130 HP) and now my BX22.

The oil is clearer and STAYS cleaner longer then regualr oils. Regular oils break down way to quick. I could go into more detail but it should stay clean longer, etc. When you install new bota oil and 1/2 hour later it is black is wrong. Cheap oil or the engine is filled with crap. I had the same thing happen with for and deere oils.

It is a good thing. I have done an engine bore and hone on my GSXR and the inside covers ad valves were in like new condition. Also took off the valve covers to do the (8) internal glow plugs on my Powerstroke (turbo bearings were also in mint shape, no carbon) at 75,000 miles and the inside looked good and clean. The stuff works. Not bad for going 3X the drains. Do I think regular oil work, yup. When you spend over $35K on a car or truck and over $16K on a tractor , why use regular old oil that is not changed in 60 years? The price is higher for synthetic, but you get what you pay for. You can use walmart oil or real oil. Take your pick?

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Re: Anybody using Amsoid diesel oil in kubota?

QSXR,
Did you do the bore and hone for power "hopping it up " or for repair ? Also the regular olis have changed a lot in 60 years.
Synthetic oil is good but so are the premium regular oils if you change it frequently and use a good filter.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I'm new to tractors - but not so new to diesels. I'm a regular on the TDIClub.com forums. We have pretty regular "oil wars" between the Amoil and Mobil Delvac 1 fans. Both are fine oils that have real advantages in modern high speed diesel engines (read "euro automotive engines" generally) over dino oils. I don't know enough about the engines in these little tractors to know if they would see a real benefit. However, I would always use a oil designed for diesel engines - the newer CH-4 and CI-4 rated oils contain much higher levels of additives to keep soot in suspension (i.e., not sludging up the inside of your engine). The guy who is probably the top oil expert on the TDIClub is the Lubrications Engineer at Avlube. I buy my Delvac 1 locally at the Freightliner dealer in E. Hartford, CT (I worked out a discount for the TDIClub) but many people who don't have or can't find a local source for D1 buy from Avlube.

MCA

 

[gsxr1100]

Re: Anybody using Amsoid diesel oil in kubota?

slowrev ;
Did you do the bore and hone for power "hopping it up " or for repair ? repair? are you kidding. Gixxers do not break unless the rider is abuses the bike (just plain dumb). They are a bullet proof (+). I was/am prepping it for a turbo this fall. I will have around 200 +/- 20 hp on it. You can't just slap a turbo on and call it a day. I also had to install larger carbs (42mm) on it and some minor cam work. I will still use a 100% synthetic in it (20w-50) So far, none of my transportation means has had any problems with oil related problems. The standard 3000 miles is a joke.

"Also the regular olis have changed a lot in 60 years". hmmm, not really. Same junk different bottle. Run a turbo with regular oil for about 1 hour above 900 degree and watch what happens? Try it with synthetic and then see what happens? HUGE difference.


"Synthetic oil is good but so are the premium regular oils if you change it frequently and use a good filter. " You hit it on the nose. Why pay for a premium regular oil when you can add about 20% more and get real oil that outperforms (in many ways) the Wal-Mart, jiffy lube oils. I guess I like better oils in my expensive toys.

You do not see MB or BMW with regular oils? The dealers /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif when people want the cheaper stuff. They know these people drive their car hard and it needs it.

Lastly, I tried Deer oil in my old tractor, Ford oil in my Powerstroke along Delvac in my diesels and the tests came back ok to under par. I then switch to a synthetic and the tests came back about 60% better. Lower Al, less soot, high Potassium (K), Calcium (Ca) for protection was high as they should be and my TBN was almost like new.

Test both oils and then see the results. I was amazed on how bad regular oils were. It could be overkill but, You get what you pay for

 

[Charliebrn]

I've run Amsoil since my 50 hour change and am very happy with it. I'm going to have an oil analysis soon and I'll post the results.

FWIW, I've seen other oil analysis results posted elsewhere and I'm convinced that synthetic oils are worth it, especially in the smaller quantities that our little tractors need...

 

[JackSlade]

Ever since my motorcycle road racing days in the late 80's/early 90's I've run Amsoil in everything I own after I did an engine tear down after a year of heavy racing abuse.

There was basically no visible wear on the cam shafts, crank or rod bearings. No build up of any kind anywhere, including valves. They looked just about new, only slight exhaust carbon on the exhaust valves, but no build up! The bores still had the cross hatch and any sort of ring ridge was barely visible.

The only reason I tore the motor down was to inspect it before the start of the new season. It went right back together.

I did a search "Amsoil + Kubota" because I wanted to see what people were using... I plan on using Amsoil everything on my Kubota BX24 and other implements around my new "mini-ranch".

Good forum, thanks

Cheers!

 

[sw03]

gsxr hits it head on...Gee, I wonder why he was banned here....

 

[brandoro]

You revived a pretty old thread. Still valid in any case.
I have use Amsoil in everything I have owned that needs oil since the early '80's. It has always performed as expected or better than expected. I did oil analysis a few times, always had good to excellent results on the extended drain so haven't done any for a while now. This is my third Kubota and it will be the third one with synthetic in everything as soon as it hits 300 hours and I change the front axle fluid. The engine and transmission have synthetic in them already. The 5W40 European formula is my oil of choice for the engine because I can use the same oil in my car.

 

[canoetrpr]

I use it in my F150 and just started using it in my L3400 on this oil change. I use synthetic in all my vehicles. It tends to get quite cold here in the winter.

At the plalce I have been servicing my truck, its been a lot cheaper to bring my own synthetic in and to pay for the labour of the oil change. I became a Amsoil preferred customer and find the price quite decent compared to what I can buy Mobil 1 for which is what I used to purchase form a local big box store.

Plus Amsoil delivers to my house so it is quite convenient.