Anybody run "apportioned" tags?

[Builder]

Anybody run apportioned tags?

I got talked into this because I live literally on the border of 2 states.
One of my 3 trucks over 10,000lbs is in the "other" state often.
The paperwork looks a little intimidating.
Anyone else have apportioned tags and want to share a little experience?

 

[ramzee1]

I believe you only need apportioned plates if your over 26,000 lbs. I have F350's and a F650 we run across state lines without any trouble. We do have to have DOT numbers. I have apportioned plates on our dump trucks and semi. If your over 26,000 lbs and need apportioned plates you will also want to get an IFTA sticker for fuel. I belong to the Midwest Truckers Association, they're a good source of information and they helped me get the forms I needed filled out and sent in. Good Luck

 

[thatguy]

Builder - I audit the IRP (apportioned tags) for VA - so PM me or post questions here..

Typically IRP plates are only required for trucks over 26,000 BUT you can apportion any weight truck. Whether you need IRP plates depends on the state you travel in- Some states have laws that say if you 'conduct business' in their state you must register your truck in their state and IRP is the only way around this easily.. (As an example, say you live in VA and sell christmas trees in SC (do business in SC, while only passing through NC).. IF SC requires you to register (license plate) your vehicle you would need to get IRP plates for VA and SC, but not necessarily NC since you are only traveling thru and not doing business there.. This is an example only not necessarily laws for NC or SC)

If the truck is under 26,000 lbs - you wont need IFTA..

With IRP you must maintain documentation recapping all vehicle movements (date, veh #, origin, destination, routes of travel, intermediate stops, beg/end odometer readings, jurisdictional mileage, etc)..You need to be able to track/determine how many miles you travel in each jurisdictions you are apportioned for..

Hope this helps

Brian

 

[Builder]

I'm in PA and occassionally travel into DE to purchase things and I have a couple customers there, too.
Truck is tagged at 33,000 GCWR. I already have IFTA and DOT# taken care of.
Do I have to log EVERY trip with the truck? Or just trips out of state? Even if I stay in my state and run the truck up the road 3 miles to buy a shovel, I have to log that trip, too?

 

[Bob Rooks]

Will a driver's log satisfy those requirement? Curious. When I was driving 105,500 lbs. GCW from WA to OR didn't need apportioned plates but had to show log at the border. Maybe it was a reciprosity thing. Don't remember.

 

[thatguy]

I'm in PA and occassionally travel into DE to purchase things and I have a couple customers there, too.
Truck is tagged at 33,000 GCWR. I already have IFTA and DOT# taken care of.
Do I have to log EVERY trip with the truck? Or just trips out of state? Even if I stay in my state and run the truck up the road 3 miles to buy a shovel, I have to log that trip, too?

Technically you should log every mile your truck travels with all the details.. BUT you probably could get by with keeping a track of your 'various local PA travels' if you include dates and odometer readings to support your local mileage being lumped together..

b

 

[thatguy]

Will a driver's log satisfy those requirement? Curious. When I was driving 105,500 lbs. GCW from WA to OR didn't need apportioned plates but had to show log at the border. Maybe it was a reciprosity thing. Don't remember.

DOT logs are a good starting point IF they are completely filled out.. They would give you the date, veh #, origin/intermediate stops/destination, - IF you added beg/end odometer readings (you can add them upper left where you have to log your daily mileage), and break down your jurisdictional mileage.. Also having the routes of travel is great during an audit because I can run your trip on a computer program to compare mileage - and that way I will route you the same way you actually went..

B

 

[Bob Rooks]

Even if I stay in my state and run the truck up the road 3 miles to buy a shovel, I have to log that trip, too?

Yup. Tip: Don't go shovel-shopping in that truck. :laughing:

 

[thatguy]

Let me add as a disclaimer... IF you are ever audited, what your jurisdiction may accept can be totally different from what another jurisdiction will accept as acceptable source documents..

Brian

 

[Builder]

I'm beginning to think I made a mistake. I was talked into this at the truck tags shop. They asked me if I planned trips into other states,. I said yes. They asked how many? I said at least a couple times per month. They asked if I would be willing to call for temp trip permits. I said it sounded like a hassle, so they suggested appor. tags.
I wanted to be able to use this truck to get up and go when/where I want. Logging in trips to pick up materials at the lumber yard 3 miles away sounds ridiculous.