Any word on NH taking back the compact line from LS

Agent Blue · Mar 22, 2012

I hear rumbling NH will take back all cab optioned compacts that LS was to build. Quality, design, and engineering not up to their standards. Is this just a rumor or are they taking back a handed off manufacture segment of their product ?

WM75Guy · Mar 22, 2012

See this.

NH bringing back some Shibaura tractors. - TractorByNet.com

Rainbody · Mar 22, 2012

The CEO of LS was just in Austin too. Would of been nice to ask something direct.
So the compacts were NH made by LS under contract? And now NH wants them back?
Really didn't understand the chain of ownership/contract building ect.

houstonscott · Mar 22, 2012

Agent Blue said:
I hear rumbling NH will take back all cab optioned compacts that LS was to build. Quality, design, and engineering not up to their standards. Is this just a rumor or are they taking back a handed off manufacture segment of their product ?

Did some google research on this question. Seems like you may have this reversed. Turns out LS had contracts with Fiat who bought NH. And those contracts survive today. NH supplies LS with large cab tractors in S. Korea and the east rebadged as LS. While LS was suppling NW with a small line of tractors badged as NH in America and the EU. Turns out LS may not be happy with NH supplied cab tractors in S. Korea and the east where they are a popular and respected brand and the NH supplied cab tractors may not be up to LS standards. The larger LS tractors use Iveco diesels so there is relationship and technology exchange going on between the NH and LS.

HS

Sublifer · Mar 22, 2012

houstonscott said:
Did some google research on this question. Seems like you may have this reversed. Turns out LS had contracts with Fiat who bought NH. And those contracts survive today. NH supplies LS with large cab tractors in S. Korea and the east rebadged as LS. While LS was suppling NW with a small line of tractors badged as NH in America and the EU. Turns out LS may not be happy with NH supplied cab tractors in S. Korea and the east where they are a popular and respected brand and the NH supplied cab tractors may not be up to LS standards. The larger LS tractors use Iveco diesels so there is relationship and technology exchange going on between the NH and LS.

HS

That is rather surprising. Not that LS is a good brand, but that LS put their name on some NH tractors and they sucked :laughing:
I knew LS made some tractors 24-47hp for NH but I never heard anything until this thread about larger tractors being rebadged...

I myself have been considering upgrading to a larger LS but I just don't know about those Iveco engines... not that I've heard bad but I have heard many people say they wished they used larger mitsubishi diesels in their larger tractors

Guesseral · Mar 23, 2012

I will not stick my nose in here to far because I just don't know the answer to the question, but I have been trying to follow the NH / LS deal. The people NH site seems to take any chance to slam the LS line that they can. Please lets not do the same thing here. Not that we would but just saying.

I would like to know the whole true story, but like I said the true story. From what I understand it did have something to do with the cab models, but I thought it was that LS didn't offer a cab model in there compacts. I hadn't heard anything about any larger units from NH to LS.

Short Game · Mar 23, 2012

Just go through all the major names on Wikipedia and you will be amazed by the Musical Chairs game of branding and transfers of tractor divisions from one corporation to another, and whose engine is in whose machines. Just hope you get peaches and not lemons.

Guesseral · Mar 23, 2012

Yea I was bouncing back and fourth earlier, it's amazing. Have you read any of the LS posts on the NH forum yet. It's amazing how they have a problem with a rebranded LS but they have no problem with a rebranded shibaura. I just don't get it.

ProdaddyTX · Mar 28, 2012

Rainbody said:
The CEO of LS was just in Austin too. Would of been nice to ask something direct.

Yeah, wish I'd seen this thread and we could have asked him directly.

After talking to our rep I've learned that LS Mtron is the distributor for New Holland in S. Korea.... and that relationship played a role in the selection of Iveco engines for the P Series utility line sold here in the U.S.... My guy didn't know anything about any tractor returns or dissatisfaction, but he's not really interested in NH's being sold 10,000 miles away so that's not surprising.

After seeing some of the NH compacts available over the last couple of years (The T-1500 series, not the Shibaura-made units), the notion that the LS-built machines were of unsatisfactory quality is pretty comical... There's got to be some e-rumor mill confusion at work here. When we get a truck load of LS tractors, they show up in perfect condition and need nothing. We go thru the make ready process and double check everything religiously, and they're always perfect. Of course, somebody's going to say I'm biased, and full disclosure.... I'm with RCO Tractor and we are an LS dealer.... but that doesn't change the fact the tractors are rock solid, IMHO.