Loader Any BX owners with a Grapple? Thoughts?

   / Any BX owners with a Grapple? Thoughts? #21  
Update - I went by there today and asked specifics about 3rd function, etc. My dealer's dad took me to see them and told me they put in a diverter valve upon installation and then when I want to clamp the grapple, the flow is diverted from the curl. Makes sense. I would probably rather have the 3rd function for obvious reasons, but for the price, I think I'll be quite happy with the diverter. I have plenty of time to piddle. It will be okay to not be able to curl and clamp at same (so I say now).

Also, my dealer had told me jlast time I was there that they can only put a two function remote on the back (from Kubota) so I can't do top and tilt (or they won't offer it that way, but I have seen where others have done their own). But.... I'm now thinking just tilt. The top link on these are very easy to adjust anyway and after having used my box blade a lot on the L3800, my most painful part was adjusting the tilt anyway, so this would be a real handy add-on.

I wouldn't worry too much about not having 3 simultaneous functions on a BX. The GPM is not enough to really run the curl and clamp very fast at the same time, at least that's my experience.

As to the rear remotes, I added my own set up using the backhoe powerbeyond loop and tank return. Not as "clean" as what an OEM version would be, but Kubota does not offer rear remotes for the BX backhoe models, only the non-backhoe versions. Has to do with interference with the backhoe subframe. Anyway, I put up a thread on my rear remote build a few years back if you're interested. I don't understand what your dealer is saying only getting one set of rear remotes. Once you plumb the hydraulics, you can add a valve with dual SCVs as easy as a single SCV. Got mine from surplus center, which offers quite an array of valve options. You can see the valve placement on my ROPs in the pic I posted above.
 
   / Any BX owners with a Grapple? Thoughts? #22  
I wouldn't worry too much about not having 3 simultaneous functions on a BX. The GPM is not enough to really run the curl and clamp very fast at the same time, at least that's my experience.

My experience too, with larger hydraulic flows than the BX series. I'd get the diverter and use the differen$e for the TNT. On the Grand L series, it takes one valve for the tilt and one valve for the top link.
 
   / Any BX owners with a Grapple? Thoughts?
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Update: Ordered tractor with bunch of implements around March 12th or so. Dealer has been waiting for odds and ends to all show up. Took into shop to prep on Friday so I could get it Friday or Sat morning. They had issues with hooking up hydraulics for grapple since BX is different than other Kubotas. This is the first BX grapple install they've ever done. One part of the wait was he had to order quick attach I think after loader already arrived.

Anyway, he called Friday at end of day to tell me it would probably be Tuesday instead because he had to order another part, something about the power beyond on the BX. He's not used to working with that.

Question to the experts here: He had told me before all that that the diverter they were installing would still allow for the other functions, maybe a little slower. Now with whatever he's talking about concerning the power beyond stuff, does this mean 3rd function or still just a diverter with curl being lost? I guess I'll know for sure tomorrow or Weds, but figured you experienced folks could tell me.

I've read the other threads too, but can't lie, I just don't understand it all that deeply.
 
   / Any BX owners with a Grapple? Thoughts? #24  
Update: Ordered tractor with bunch of implements around March 12th or so. Dealer has been waiting for odds and ends to all show up. Took into shop to prep on Friday so I could get it Friday or Sat morning. They had issues with hooking up hydraulics for grapple since BX is different than other Kubotas. This is the first BX grapple install they've ever done. One part of the wait was he had to order quick attach I think after loader already arrived.

Anyway, he called Friday at end of day to tell me it would probably be Tuesday instead because he had to order another part, something about the power beyond on the BX. He's not used to working with that.

Question to the experts here: He had told me before all that that the diverter they were installing would still allow for the other functions, maybe a little slower. Now with whatever he's talking about concerning the power beyond stuff, does this mean 3rd function or still just a diverter with curl being lost? I guess I'll know for sure tomorrow or Weds, but figured you experienced folks could tell me.

I've read the other threads too, but can't lie, I just don't understand it all that deeply.

I was reading this and trying to remember on mine. I am 99% sure that everything will work at the same time.....However I don't think I have ever "bitten" into anything and tried to curl or pick it up.....I have some branches from last year that I need to clean up, and it is to be nice today....I will have to try for my own if nothing else now.....then perhaps another day in the life update.
 
   / Any BX owners with a Grapple? Thoughts? #25  
Mine doesn't do curl and bite at the same time. It's a Land Pride factory 3rd function, and dealer installed.
 
   / Any BX owners with a Grapple? Thoughts? #26  
Mine doesn't do curl and bite at the same time. It's a Land Pride factory 3rd function, and dealer installed.

Same here. There's just not enough juice flowing from the BX pump. However, one gets very used to it and it's not really a problem.
 

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