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- SE Michigan in the middle of nowhere
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- Kubota M9000 HDCC3 M9000 HDC
Touche' twice.12 PTO HP
Touche' twice.12 PTO HP
Sacrilege!Said before and will say again, the tractor market (and other markets as well), when there are too many players, the slices of pie as it relates to sales, gets thinner and thinner and when that happens, the marginal manufacturers cease to exist.
..and that is what is going to happen with EV's as well. Only the strong survive and the marginal ones fold. Once the Chinese invade the domestic EV market, you'll see many marginal ones cease to exist. BYD will sell very competitively priced EV's here and that will cause a reduction in builders because they won't be able to compete once the playing field is tilted. When your P&L statement gets lopsided, you fold. Plain and simple and BYD will cause that. Why the domestic EV makers are scaling back. They see the handwriting on the wall. That and the fact that a large percentage of buyers don't want an EV in the first place. Maybe a no plug in Hybrid but not a pure plug in EV ad that really has nothing to do with gummit subsidies either. Heck the government is already bankrupt so they keep on printing paper money and that drives the inflation spiral and I'm not gonna get into that on this forum anyway. All I know is, I'm fortunate I don't have a vehicle payment. Buying a new, extremely overpriced vehicle today is insane.
I think your statement speaks volumes about the fundamental issue we face when attempting to hold our government accountable. It's a giant layer of insulation. No one ever is held accountable because "the government is not a person". And agency heads are not elected officials. Until the news makers start investigating and shedding light on waste and fraud with names attached, this will continue.Always remember, the government produces no tangible product, is the largest employer in the country and exists solely on your tax dollars which they spend with no regard for the very people that finance them and pay their salaries.
Correction: they used to be our dollars. Once a thief takes your money, it is no longer yours.All of the dollars they spend are our dollars. The inflation we have felt recently is because they just "made up" more dollars we are on the hook for. All while making the one's they let us keep, have less and less value.
There are problems with your comment, among them:I can’t help but feel that eventually, the hybrid and electric vehicles/ machines, will improve to the degree that we will all wonder why we ever used fossil fuel machines in the first place.
I liken it to my first battery powered tool, a Mikita 9.6v drill. It was ok, but not that effective for serious drilling.
compare that to the Milwaukee Fuel drills I use today, and the fact that I haven’t taken my corded drill out of the cabinet in years, and that is where I think the vehicular future is headed.
Doubters and boomers may never go willingly, and Offer up specific examples of why they don’t/won’t buy in, but just as we reach for our cordless yard tools and robotic vacuum cleaners, we will wonder how we ever got along in the old days.
We bought a Corolla Hybrid about a year ago, and while it can't touch the mileage I used to get with my '83 VW Jetta turbodiesel, we like it. It has way too many electronic bells and whistles, but that seems to be the case with all new cars now. It is all-wheel-drive, and that worked great when we got caught in a snowstorm a few weeks ago. Also, when sitting on the interstate for two hours that day, the engine only ran once in a while to keep the cabin warm.Toyota is killing it with it's hybrids. The RAV4 Hybrid is definitely on our short list
Agreed, except that we should want some businesses to "go down the tube." When a business can't make a profit, it is a sign that they are not using resources as well as they should to satisfy consumer preferences. Their production is out of sync with what buyers want. They should, and must, be allowed to go bankrupt so the waste does not continue. Governments love to interfere in this by propping up misallocations of resources in pursuit of political goals.Lotsa' good posts here. Hope mine is as good.
Wished the Gummit would just stay out of the 'lectric stuff.
We did not need them to get involved with cordless tools. They found a market all on their own. No tax paid rebates. No tax breaks. No free charging. And are doing very well for the most part. I don't think I know anyone who doesn't own at least one cordless tool.
There are places for I.C.E. and uncorded.
IF someone can use a cordless tractor then so be it.
If I could afford both tractors then maybe a cordless one too. But if just one, then me and my old diesel will be it.
I don't wanna see any business go down the tube and I hope they survive.
Let the free market decide.