another oil filter question

[Moon]

I've been using toyota oil filters on my toyota. I'm wondering who makes these for toyota? I'm guessing toyota does not make there own because they are not listed in any of the oil fiter tests.

Thanks,
Moon of Ohio

 

[gsxr1100]

As most Lexus/toyota parts are made by Denso.

 

[Moon]

Thanks Mike;
Denso? I looked at some oil filter tests but didn't find anyting on Denso. Not a good sign I'm sure. Anyone know anything about the quality of these filters?

 

[MikePA]

<font color="blue"> I looked at some oil filter tests but didn't find anyting on Denso. Not a good sign I'm sure.</font>
Don't read anything into this. All it means is Denso filters were not tested.

<font color="blue">Anyone know anything about the quality of these filters? </font>
I did a Google search on "Denso Filters" and got 29 hits. Some of the hits contain statements from people who claim to have taken the filters apart.

I'm not at home or I'd double check this....I think the filters for my New Holland TC25D are Denso.

 

[gsxr1100]

So far Denso is excellant quality. I have there air filters and cabin air filters, fuel filters, spark plugs (Iridium), O2 sensors and some other things. They are built much beefier then others. All the people on the Lexus forums use only Denso parts.

Bases on Toyota and Lexus's success etc I would say you are fine. Most times the dealers high price do not help people buying them. My Lexus dealer wants $9 for them when I can buy online for $4.50 (if I used them).

http://www.densoaftermarket.com/parts_oil_filters.shtml

 

[SnowRidge]

Denso is 1/4 owned by Toyota, who is the largest shareholder. Denso owns all of PuroDenso, having recently aquired ArvinMeritor's 50% share. ArvinMeritor is owned by Arvin Industries, which owns Purolator.

PuroDenso was a joint venture between Purolator and Denso -- or ArvinMeritor and Denso, depending on which report you read. As far as I can determine, the joint venture was formed before Arvin Industries, who owns ArvinMeritor, purchased Purolator. PuroDenso built automotive air, oil, and fuel filters in Jackson, TN.

Are Purolator and Denso filters one in the same? I dunno. Are Purolator filters built by Denso with the Purolator label? Dunno that either. Does Purolator even build filters anymore? Same dunno.

What is pretty clear though, the former PuroDenso plant is still cranking out filters, and it is now simply called Denso.

Who's on first? Dunno that either.

 

[MikePA]

<font color="blue"> Denso is 1/4 owned by Toyota, who is the largest shareholder. </font>
No offense there, SnowRidge, but this is exactly why I did not quote from any of the hits from Google.....

Denso was separated from Toyota in 1949. Link ---> Click Here


Establishment of Nippondenso Co., Ltd. having been separated from Toyota Motor Co., Ltd. with ¥15 million capital.

 

[SnowRidge]

<font color="blue"> No offense there, SnowRidge, but this is exactly why I did not quote from any of the hits from Google.....

Denso was separated from Toyota in 1949. </font>

No offense, Mike, but that doesn't mean that Toyota doesn't own a percentage of Denso.

Denso was spun off of Toyota as a separate company. Usually when that happens, the parent company retains some of the stock in the new entity and sells the rest to raise cash. That appears to be what happened in this case. Toyota was in bad shape and needed to reorganize.

As part of that reorganization, the Toyota electrical division was spun off as Nippon Denso Corp. Toyota still retains about 25% of the Denso stock. Will you trust Standard & Poors on that?
Denso Report

The report is slightly out of date in one aspect. Toyota and its subsidiaries now buy over 50% of Denso's output according to Denso's latest financial statement, which is available on the web. This in itself is an indirect indicator of strong ties between the two companies. Toyota also has at least two of its board members sitting on Denso's board.

It is extremely difficult for individuals to find out the true ownership of many foreign corporations. Unlike here in the U.S., most aren't required to report in detail who the significant stakeholders are. However, I am confident in Standard and Poor's abilities to report ownership interests accurately.

 

[MikePA]

Never said that Toyota didn't own stock in Denso. Simply drawing a distinction between Denso being something like a susidiary of Toyota and Toyota simply owning stock in the company.

 

[frank_f15]

I AM GOING TO PUT MY HEAD ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif But i would suggest you go to NAPA and get one of their filters (i beleive made byWIX) more important than the filter is the frequency of oil changes. chage oil frequently, and use a good filter and you should be trouble free.