Ammunition

[aczlan]

Hi Aaron,

Given the conversation I overheard at the Firing Pin [our only local range] recently, you still have to have your >10 round mags disabled, and if it's in an AR-type rifle, the mag has to also be fixed in place in the weapon to prevent change out to a non-"SAFE" law compliant magazine later.

The other patron had ordered the weapon online with shipping to the licensed dealer, paid them the [I think] newly increased $25-30 transfer fee, and still couldn't take it home until he paid them to make it "SAFE"-compliant.

Sorry, I mis-remembered. The SAFE act made it so that you could buy new magazines and you could only load 7 rounds into your existing 10 round magazines. A judge said that the 7 round limit was arbitrary and ridiculous, so its not being enforced:

Possessing a magazine loaded with more than 7 rounds / New PL section 265.37
New PL section 265.37 had made it a crime to load any magazine with more than 7 rounds of
ammunition, regardless of the capacity of the magazine. On December 31st, the United
States District Court for the Western District of New York issued a decision as a result of
challenges to various provisions of the New York Safe Act. While the federal district court
upheld most of its provisions, the Court held that this section, "Unlawful Possession of
Certain Ammunition Feeding Devices," was unconstitutional. As a result of the Court’s
decision members are instructed not to enforce PL 265.37 at this time.

Aaron Z

 

[Larry Caldwell]

On the national level yes. BUT how about at the state level. California just passed 10 round magazine restriction and background check for all ammo purchases. How all that is going to work I don't know, and neither does anyone else.

Visit Oregon for your ammo needs. No sales tax. Everybody in Oregon goes to California for their booze, and there are huge liquor stores within sight of the border. Now there will be ammo wholesalers 100 feet to the Oregon side of the border.

 

[dragoneggs]

I just bought a S&W MP Shield in 9mm last night. Had to ask if I could buy ammo at the same time as I thought that was a no-no before. But they did walk the bag with the pistol to the door while I carried the bag with everything else (ammo, holster, soft clamshell, etc.). Won't get a chance to run some rounds through it until this weekend. I was worried about my RA wrists but I could work the action without problems. I'll see how I can handle the 124gr. kick then probably drop to 115gr. for carry.

I think you will be impressed. I have both the MP9 Shield w/CT and full size version. Love both. Now thinking of the Shield 45cal based on ex-LEO buddy who is raving about it. It seems to be up to the establishment here in WA. I don't know the law but I have had the gun escorted out of store to hand me, and in small shops I walk out with firearm by myself. Ammo or no.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I wouldn't put much stock in any article from the "Washington Post Hole" even if published yesterday. While Trump indicated he is pro-2nd Amendment, it's too early to tell what will happen or Policy Direction. That's what makes the riots so stupid. I'm just glad the left communists are destroying their own cities. Maybe we should start chanting "Let 'em Burn".

Don't hold your breath on anything Trump said. He just ran his mouth without thinking about it, and spouted some amazingly ignorant garbage. For instance, he claimed he was going to "get rid of lobbyists," but his transition team is 100% Wall Street fat cats. I don't think he was lying so much as being totally clueless. The power brokers are going to spend the next 4 years leading him around by the nose.

 

[ultrarunner]

Visit Oregon for your ammo needs. No sales tax. Everybody in Oregon goes to California for their booze, and there are huge liquor stores within sight of the border. Now there will be ammo wholesalers 100 feet to the Oregon side of the border.

Yep just about every tax or restriction passed with flying colors on my ballot and it is illegal to "Import" more than 50 rounds across State lines.

One would think with such tremendous success the voters would be in hog heaven... not a chance... 3 nights of riots because the only thing that didn't go according to plan is the office of the President.

A lot of older handguns have magazines that are not permitted under the new law... a friend that has CC in California contacted Smith and Wesson and was told they no longer sell small capacity magazines for the firearms he owns...

So here is a man that has to pass rigorous qualifying, a huge firearms endorsement for liability and the weapons he qualifies with exceed 10 rounds.

On a side note the media was interviewing protesters concerned Trump would break up her family and they would have to go back to Mexico... the irony of the Protesters is a Mom and Pop Mexican Restaurant had all the windows smashed during the riot...

I don't believe all the gun shops have closed when they could no longer renew their business licenses.

 

[ultrarunner]

Don't hold your breath on anything Trump said. He just ran his mouth without thinking about it, and spouted some amazingly ignorant garbage. For instance, he claimed he was going to "get rid of lobbyists," but his transition team is 100% Wall Street fat cats. I don't think he was lying so much as being totally clueless. The power brokers are going to spend the next 4 years leading him around by the nose.

It's hard to believe anything these days... the list of personalities vowing to flee the country under a Trump presidency is long... doubt even 1% will put their words into action.

I though Vice President is heading the transition team... are you sure it is all Wall Street?

 

[hawkeye08]

It's hard to believe anything these days... the list of personalities vowing to flee the country under a Trump presidency is long... doubt even 1% will put their words into action.

I though Vice President is heading the transition team... are you sure it is all Wall Street?

I'm not buying into the Wall street fat cats BS. Pence is not, others are not, but I guess you call Trump children fat cats...

 

[dragoneggs]

They grew up in a house with a "gold room" didn't they?

http://archpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/SF-OTTO_TR_A95SF46-106.jpg

Donald Trump's $1m New York City penthouse in pictures | Daily Mail Online

Most if not all of his team fit my definition of either Fat Cat or Policital/Financial Insiders:

A Who's Who Guide To Donald Trump's Transition Team - Digg

Trump packs transition team with loyalists and family
| Reuters

He's doing something right! Wow!!!

 

[hutchman]

New AR lower



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[dragoneggs]

New AR lower

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