Amish farm under threat from U.S. federal govt for refusal to abandon traditional farming practices

   / Amish farm under threat from U.S. federal govt for refusal to abandon traditional farming practices #61  
Who do you pay attention to?
I would suggest that people check out a site called AllSides.com to see the bias rating of various news sources. It can lead you to multiple sources that aren't biased to the left or to the right. It also gives a fact check bias. I look at fact checks frequently. It is amazing how much more the off from center (either direction) a news media is, the more often they can fail in fact checks.
No news media is perfect, even those in the center. One must approach news with an open mind.
 
   / Amish farm under threat from U.S. federal govt for refusal to abandon traditional farming practices #62  
around here in SF for as long time

They hate people too.
You in San Fran proper? I was there in the 80s and it was pretty nice then again in 2018 and it had declined terribly. Human excrement everywhere. Nothing was clean. I want to Gary Dankos and got outta town.
 
   / Amish farm under threat from U.S. federal govt for refusal to abandon traditional farming practices #63  
No… not in SF proper and about the only time I venture in is with visitors… still a big draw for guests but traffic/parking no thanks.

If possible I drop them off at BART and tell them to call and I pick them up…

Simply looking West is my SF view… no matter what anyone says it makes for a nice sunset and city lights…

I can see towers of the Golden Gate plus 4 other Bay bridges, North to Mt Tam and South to Santa Cruz mountains… and still have acerage for my tractors!
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   / Amish farm under threat from U.S. federal govt for refusal to abandon traditional farming practices #64  
Milk is good for you isn't the message seen around here in SF for as long time... cows are bad, meat is bad, cows milk bad for humans is the message but somehow ice cream seems to get a pass.
As it should.
 
   / Amish farm under threat from U.S. federal govt for refusal to abandon traditional farming practices #65  
I wonder how many people die from alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis of the liver, drunk driving, etc? per year from liquor and beer. There are liquor stores everywhere, beer in every convenience store and the government is making tons in taxes and regulates it. Then there is all the moonshine and homemade wine being made that kills as well. How many are in jail or rehab because of it? How much does this cost us as a society??

I am not against alcohol but just wanted to make a comparison about a legal, regulated product that is deadly and readily available 7 days a week. However, some farmer somewhere trying to make a living gets in trouble for raw milk. Maybe we need to set up a legal raw milk drinking age and put warning signs on it?? Drink at your own risk. Potential for you to get sick and die. Then let the adult make the decision.

I bet alcohol cost way more lives in one month than raw milk killing people over the last 50 years in this country. Where is the outrage??? Maybe the government needs to get involved and stop all these folks from poisoning themselves with alcohol and go after these liquor manufacturers???

They did it with smoking.
You can't ship unpasteurized beer across state lines either.
 
   / Amish farm under threat from U.S. federal govt for refusal to abandon traditional farming practices #68  
Coors beer is unpasteurized and sells in many states.
Coors is sold in all 50 states. Not surprisingly, Indiana was the last one. :rolleyes: We just got Sunday liquor sales a couple years ago.

Between Prohibition and 1976, Coors was available in only 11 states, all in the West -- the stuff was unpasteurized, contained no preservatives, and had to be kept cold, so long journeys just weren’t a possibility. The first steps towards national distribution actually came in the 1950s when Coors helped pioneer the use of cold filtering, sterile filling, aluminum cans, and refrigerated trucks, but it wouldn’t reach all 50 states until it landed in Indiana in 1991.
 

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