Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion?

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   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #51  
As HayDude mentioned it's a bear finding young farm labor that can put their phone down. I pay cash by the day and IME it's even harder to get someone to come back a second day. I've wondered if they only needed enough $$ to pay their phone bill before it got switched off.

If I have a new worker I don't expect to spend a whole shift demonstrating what to do if they won't grab a shovel and join me. All are offered to operate a tractor, man lift, or the mini-BH vs hand dig, rake, etc, but that takes two hands too, so no one accepts the option. :rolleyes:

Maybe I'm too cheap. I'll pay $25/hr for help checking/airing-up tires, greasing machinery, rotating battery maintainers, operating a tractor, BH, or man-lift, ground observer when I'm in the bucket, etc but can't find takers. IMO entitled kids want a 'position' with bennies, not to have to necessarily 'work' to earn their pay. If they don't see an income stream they can't stay interested.
 
   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #52  
Maybe add 10 more minutes and dig a straight line next time?

I wasn’t paying attention to the ground wire stake in the way. As long as it’s not a tight radius it really doesn’t matter.
 
   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #53  
Do you want your kid to work in a rock quarry?

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One of my buddies works in a gravel quarry. Working on equipment is the hardest part of their job. Otherwise he’s in a loader cab loading rock. Now the guys in the stone quarry work a lot harder.
 
   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #54  
Yup, plastics, estrogens in milk and water. Feminization of our culture. Nobody learns a trade. It's not a class issue, it's a values problem. How does this happen? We have let our institutions become neutered and subverted. The expectations of men and women are now reduced to "genders". Elections are meaningless. Who did this? We all know who did it and we let them. It is no accident. Take good care of your machines, tools and land. Teach someone younger how to use them. Also forget the sports. Sports do not matter and it is a mindless distraction. What matters? Food matters. Land matters. Skills matter. Our people who built our civilization matter. When you turn on a switch, does a light go on? When you call an ambulance, does anyone answer? Who makes sure there is an answer? Is the hospital open? Who makes it so? Baby formula or drywall powder - who makes sure food is safe? In many places in the world, it cannot be counted upon. We are being dragged down to this level by people who hate our values so we can be enslaved.
 
   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #55  
@ 4570Man, So, I can rent a trencher and DIY or just have you do the work? Too bad you're so far away or I might look you up, but I'm only looking at 400' to 18" deep. :cry: I already know a sub-soiler won't cut it even if the call-out is 10"

btw, HenryIV, I know two guys who work in a quarry and would back up anything you say about the elbow grease involved in their work. Two brothers, the younger is an operator the elder an 'Amish backhoe' as needed. Another guy works for a tree service and brings us chips to fill or compost. These guys are younger than me but except for Anthony (<40) they look much older. They're also in the shape I wish I was in. (new knee this fall offers hope to stay on my feet > 15 min/hr)
 
   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #56  
@ 4570Man, So, I can rent a trencher and DIY or just have you do the work? Too bad you're so far away or I might look you up, but I'm only looking at 400' to 18" deep. :cry: I already know a sub-soiler won't cut it even if the call-out is 10"

btw, HenryIV, I know two guys who work in a quarry and would back up anything you say about the elbow grease involved in their work. Two brothers, the younger is an operator the elder an 'Amish backhoe' as needed. Another guy works for a tree service and brings us chips to fill or compost. These guys are younger than me but except for Anthony ( 15 min/hr)

If you can rent a ride on I’d go for it but the walk behinds are pretty useless. I’d probably go for a mini x rental.
 
   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #57  
Hey Hay Dude, you're the toughest there is without any question! Based off of you posts I do question whether it's the youth of today or you that hate America? Or maybe you just hate the people in it?
My country hated me first. My country calls me a terrorist. My county made laws that limited my access to education and employment because of my race. My country is occupied by a foreign ethnostate seeking to destroy my race. My country shoots citizens in the citizen's legislative branch without any repercussion. My country rolls out the carpet for invaders while it ignores people who were born on it's soil. Part of the problem are Americans who cling to a romantic notion of America that never existed in our lifetimes, if at all. It's like driving down a hill as the tank runs empty, oblivious to the fact that the engine has stopped. There are today many "Americans" that would kill you and your kids and laugh about it. I'm not trying to make you angry, but one cannot fix a problem they are unwilling to see as a problem. This country can only become what we make it. The only question is are you the problem or the solution?
 
   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #58  
I remember sitting in a meeting once and while listening to the speaker I was picking at the callous on my hands. A young man asked what the problem with my hands was and mentioned that he did not want to catch a skin disease from me. I told him they were callouses. He asked if it was contagious. I told him, that I did not think he had to worry......

I stopped to get gas today and the pump locked up on me. I went into the attendant station and asked them to reset it. A young man with fingernail polish on came out and reset the pump......

..I could go on, but my answer to the title of the thread is YES.
 
   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #59  
@ HenryIV, the problem with racism is our culture's denial of it. IMO the shame of modern society is that Zionists continue to perpetuate the seizure of land and subjugation of it's inhabitants based on some past ideal of colonialism benefitting (only) the privileged and those in power. Worst thing about that attitude is using the excuse of 'when we conquered' as 'right to own'.
 
   / Americans getting softer? What’s your opinion? #60  
@ HenryIV, the problem with racism is our culture's denial of it. IMO the shame of modern society is that Zionists continue to perpetuate the seizure of land and subjugation of it's inhabitants based on some past ideal of colonialism benefitting (only) the privileged and those in power. Worst thing about that attitude is using the excuse of 'when we conquered' as 'right to own'.
What part of this earth did not have land "seized" by one civilization from another? And where the "conquered" did not conquer the same land from some other civilization prior to being conquered itself by the last civilization that conquered the land? This has been going on for forever everywhere and only recently has moved into an economic arena of conquering that we all need to address and pay attention to. We are all going to be conquered economically if we do not wake up and smell the coffee.
 
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