American made tractor?

[5030]

Mike:

Sorry, I got carried away. Peace. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[Old_Hickory]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue"> Peace </font> )</font>

Peace man...I bet you are an old hippie from the 1960's. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Kyle

I disagree again. CONSUMERS vote for cheap goods by choosing to shop at Wal-Mart and many other retailers. The consumer is the one forcing the ever lower prices, not the retailer. The retailer is simply the channel from which the consumer buys the goods. IF the retailer wants to remain in business he must buy from the low cost supplier and he must work on low margins. IF the retailer buys higher priced goods and puts them next to lower priced goods on teh shelf, the higher priced goods sit on the shelf. The fundamental issue is that we all want to get the cheapest price we can. In doing this, WE, as CONSUMERS, are driving the manufacturing plants in many industries over seas.

Further, we are now doing it with service. I would like you to call CIRCUIT CITY to order a new VCR. Don't go to the store. Just call their phone number. You will be connected to somebody in INDIA. The call center for Circuit City is in INDIA, half way around the world. And if you want computer programming done, you don't have to go to California's Silicone Valley, again you go to India, or to the Ukraine, or to Australia, or to Asia.

So it is not just manufacturing jobs, it is low paid service jobs like phone centers, and high paid technology jobs like computer programming.

How many people buy implements for their tractor from HOMIER? Or buy Jimna tractors? Why? Simple answer : PRICE. If they cared about an American worker they would pay more and get something that is AT LEAST an American owned company's product that is AT LEAST partially assembled here using SOME parts made here.

John Deere would have gone out of business long ago if they produced everything here. Ditto Catepillar. Ditto every multinational company on the planet.

 

[fivestring]

<font color="red">"Stop buying products we don't like. This will tell the companies we need to build our products here." </font>

I like the idea, but in reality, it won't work.

Good example.....

I don't like my Brand X clock radio. Because it is made overseas, I decide that I will only buy an American-made clock radio. After 3 months of shopping, I still haven't found an American-made clock radio Now what do I do? I need a clock radio!
Since most clock radios are about $10 - $30, that's all I'm willing to spend. I finally find an American-made clock radio for $60.
Now, why would I pay $60 for an item when I can find a perfectly good alternative for $10 - $30?
In reality, though.... I doubt there are any American-made clock radios. American companies can not build one for less than foreign companies.

That is the problem in a nutshell.
That is the reason Walmart, Roses, Kmart, Sam's, BJ's, Costco, etc. thrive. They too, want the cheapest item for the money because that IS what their customers want.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

<font color="blue"> you don't have to go to California's Silicone Valley </font>

But it sure is, um, purdy there.... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

or did you mean Silicon Valley...

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Rockyridge . . . I was not INTENTIONALLY referring to "blouse bunnies" but since we seem to be drifting in and out of topic on the thread maybe we could start a Natural vs. Enhanced thread? Because from what I can tell, most of the enhanced models are in fact, American Made!

 

[MossRoad]

Probably best to stick to the tractors /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[virgil]

I have 2 (TWO) tractors setting on my lot that are what I call made in America. Other than the tires, they are original. one is a 50 year old Ford 9N and the other is a little younger Ford 8N.
What I call "made in America" does not exist and has not existed for a few decads.

 

[yellowsocks93]

Well, if you did buy the clock radio for 60 bucks this would tell the companies we like American radios over their foreign counterparts. The way our economy works is by us the consumers buying products and this then tells the companies that we like those products. Why so many McDonalds? We told McDonalds to build more stores because we bought the product. I agree with you that most people would probably buy the cheaper of the two radios if it came down to the cost factor.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Bob,
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. But everybody's opinion is what makes this board so neat.
I got the Homier full color 4 page insert in the local paper last month. I scoured each and every page for deals after reading so much about it here on the board. With much anticipation, my buddies and I headed to the "big show". I rummaged through everything looking for a deal. Found a set of drill bits that seemed to be a great deal. Waited in line for 15 minutes to check out. Cashier says "Sir, those must have been on the wrong shelf". They were over twice as high as supposedly marked. I said " you can keep them". Almost everything else was "cheap stuff". The tractor had a backhoe that was bent. The finish mowers were all rusty like they had been soaked in salt water. I still enjoyed looking but I didn't end up buying anything.
If the Chinese ever figure out the quality factor and keep prices low, then I guess that will really seal our fate. That is unless we can talk the Pacific coast dockworkers into another strike like last year's. I got a kick out of that. Funny how an unseamingly important small "kink" can interrupt the system.