Almost a good day...

Lloyd_E · Apr 16, 2011

Helped my good friend down the road with his driveway. We share workshops, tools etc.
On the way home(just before my lane) the front left wheel locked up. Left a black mark on the pavement. I stopped, tried going forward, moved a bit. Backed up fine. Moved forward slowly and made it home. The tractor is due for 700 hour service. I called the dealer and explained the situation. I also noticed a bit of oil leaking around the hub assembly. He suggested it might be a bearing and to take it apart bring it to him Monday and they will fix and return when the do the servicing later in the week. It was a challenge to get the wheel lugs off and all of the other bolts. Is it a good procedure to take all the wheel lugs off a grease?

This is what I found... more than a bearing...

Both bevel gears need replacing. The housing/cover has a little nick in it plus the axle case has a few burs at the base just below the cog.

Do you think this might be covered under the warranty?
** The drive line includes the clutch housing, transmission case, differential and final drive housing, and all parts contained therein, plus drive axles and external drive shafts. Does NOT include drive clutch disc or PTO clutch disc (wet or dry)

TIA

As a general rule I always stop before engaging in 4wd. Plus, when not needed, for driving I disengage 4wd.

DK35vince · Apr 16, 2011

Sorry to see your having a problem Lloyd.
Hope you get up and running soon.

moored4 · Apr 16, 2011

If the tractor is still under W. then I think It would be. Depends on your dealers interpretation of general wear!

dourobob · Apr 16, 2011

I'll be very interested to hear how you make out on this. Best of luck. Hope it is warranty covered.
Bob

wallace · Apr 16, 2011

I can't see any reason why this wouldn't be covered.
There is no blueing to the gears. It look like it may have just been a failure.

o2batsea · Apr 16, 2011

The warranty is for 24 months. If the tractor is older than that it wouldn't be covered.

mx5guy · Apr 16, 2011

Looks like a casting flaw, upper part of gear looks like 1/2 an empty bubble, was probably an air bubble in casting, and as a weak spot it just let go and a bunch of the tooth chunked out as well, I would be concerned if it was not covered by warranty.

Hope your treated well, I had an automatic transmission repaired under warranty only to have the spider gear blow apart and went right through the transmission case a month later, dealer said abuse, I asked if the mechanic who rebuilt it could have missed a hair line crack in spider gear, company rep agreed with me and was repaired under warranty, dealer apologised.

mx5guy · Apr 16, 2011

Forgot to include this section of picture 4 as area with flaw.

Kiotikarl · Apr 17, 2011

mx5guy said:
Forgot to include this section of picture 4 as area with flaw.

If your dealer says it's not covered on warranty(crack on cab near antenna and rear work light), i would sent kioti an e-mail from their web site. I already had a dealer say it's not under warranty, but i sent an e-mail to them. Within 7 work days someone had wrote back and asked pics of the damage. 3 days later repair approval order to replace the cab top

. Kioti, unlike other companies REALLY care about their customers

:thumbsup: (had bad experience with 3 month old B3030, kubota did nothing, i payed the bill

, last kubota EVER) Good luck.

Coyote machine · Apr 17, 2011

Lloyd,
Sure looks like a tooth blew out and got caught up in the housing, thus the case damage resulting too.
Dealer should take care of it for you under warranty.

Lloyd_E · Apr 19, 2011

Here's hoping. I dropped of the unit yesterday. Must say... the thing weighs a ton.

If the parts are not in stock it will be about a week from NC plus scheduled time for install
and 700 hours service.

Lloyd

Lloyd_E · Apr 27, 2011

Dealer is coming by tomorrow to reinstall part. Part is covered under warranty... labour is not. He will also do a 700 hour service.

The work list around the farm is growing... now if the weather cooperates things will get done!

Lloyd

Lloyd_E · Apr 27, 2011

In anticipation of the service, my kids and I did a much needed wash and clean of the cab interior and exterior. I will complete tomorrow in the AM. One thing I noticed is that the rear rims are fading faster than the front ones. Also the cab roof is fading fast too. Is there a wax or sealer that will bring back the colour?

Lloyd

grsthegreat · May 3, 2011

Lloyd_E said:
In anticipation of the service, my kids and I did a much needed wash and clean of the cab interior and exterior. I will complete tomorrow in the AM. One thing I noticed is that the rear rims are fading faster than the front ones. Also the cab roof is fading fast too. Is there a wax or sealer that will bring back the colour?

Lloyd

do you keep the tractor under cover when not in use?? the sun plays havoc with the fiberglass roof.

Ive never seen anything thats brings back the color. Ive tried all the gimmicks out there thatsay they will...they don't. i HAD A BLACK BRONCO AND TRIED A BLACK WAX/POLISH. IT KIND OF WORKED...BUT FADED PRETTY SOON AFTERWARDS.
dang caps

o2batsea · May 4, 2011

Lloyd_E said:
In anticipation of the service, my kids and I did a much needed wash and clean of the cab interior and exterior. I will complete tomorrow in the AM. One thing I noticed is that the rear rims are fading faster than the front ones. Also the cab roof is fading fast too. Is there a wax or sealer that will bring back the colour?

Lloyd

Cab roof is gel coated fiberglass. You should use a product like 3M Finesse-It and a buffer. That should take off the layer of oxidation. You really need to keep it waxed if it is outdoors since the gel coat, once it starts to break down from UV rays, temp swings and dirt, pollution, acid rain etc will just keep accelerating towards failure. Go to the boat store and get some Woody Wax which has UV inhibitors. Ultimately the thing can be painted with a good two part epoxy or polyurethane if the gel coat is really too far gone to restore.

PoorMansCat · May 4, 2011

mx5guy said:
Forgot to include this section of picture 4 as area with flaw.

Interesting pic.... and if you blow the picture up you can see another "suspect" area approx. 4 teeth over to the left... It appears to ahve been caused by impact as evidenced by the metal forced up and inward toward the tooth. The fracture itself has beach marks across the failure working away from the source, the impact damage.... Something harder than the gear material has impacted the edge of the gear, either during assembly, or possibly a piece of a destroyed bearing?????
Really good pics.... wish I could get our people to take this good of pics when they ask for a failure report...
Glad to hear they are going to give you some help on the repair...

grsthegreat · May 4, 2011

so...is it all repaired????

Lloyd_E · May 6, 2011

Yes. It is repaired. Last Thursday we did a 700(+) plus service and put the Hub(?) assembly back in place - took about ten minutes. The dealer has never experienced this before although they do know of another kioti from another dealer that has. No explanation for it. The parts are covered under warranty ... the labour is not. Haven't received the invoice yet.

I am kinda tender with it now and am noticing more things... maybe paranoid or over sensitive. But there appears to be not a lot of clearance between the rim and the top of the hub assembly - on both sides. The mechanic said to run it without concern...

There's still another 16 months left on the drivetrain warranty. The warranty was one of the deciding factors to purchase.

Fingers crossed.

PS: I tried tilling the garden area tonight. Very wet and mucky. Gave up to prevent getting stuck. We have had 3 weeks of rain. Today was the only sunny break and forecast calls for another 6 days of rain...anyone have blueprints or CAD files for an ark!

Oldtrout · May 6, 2011

Well I am a bit over 700 hours on my CK25,no serious issues as of yet,however dropped a log on the engine bonnet now I have a big dent

. I completed the 700 hour service myself,however will have the dealer do the 1000 hr service,which should be later this summer or early fall.
My poor little beast gets used and maybe abused a bit,however dollar for dollar its one of the best machines that I have,or have had, My plans are to run it for another year and than trade for a DK,by that time I will be retired for the 3rd time:laughing:and just use on my property as a play toy.

Glad Mike took care of you Lloyd, he is the salt of the world as his entire family..you are in good hands.....Nope I am not related:laughing:

Lloyd_E · May 6, 2011

Good to hear. He has lost the Kioti line sort of. Vanoostrum has picked it up and Mike is selling under them and doing servicing. He will be stocking a few at his location. I chatted to Mike a bit about it. It seems Kioti wanted a bigger dealer... go figure.

Lloyd