Air filter change, wow!

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Does anyone beside's me use a shop vac on the outside of the filter?.. Seems to work well, and runs no risk of punching a hole thru the paper from using compressed air and getting too close to the paper. I never let them get to the point where there is any caked on dirt in the folds, but If I did I would tap it out as suggested and then vacuum.


James K0UA
 
   / Air filter change, wow! #12  
KOua excellent idea plus you don't have that cloud of dust to breath in
 
   / Air filter change, wow! #13  
Man I cant believe what I am reading here. First off, no way a stopped up AIR cleaner would make an engine run hot. If it cant get air, it is going to run rich and rich means cooler. Stopped up radiator from grass seeds, YEP.
When working in dusty conditions like mowing fields or working dirt, the air cleaner should be cleaned daily.
Black filter paper is not a reason to throw away a filter. Check the filter by shining a flash light on it and viewing the opposite side. You can see if it has holes or if it is stopped up. They are made to be cleaned with compressed air, just dont put the tip right against it. The filter is going to be the color of your dirt, if your dust is brown or black, then the filter will be slightly brown or black even when cleaned.
Your owners manual should give you a good work description for cleaning the air cleaner filter with most telling you to tap the filter on a tire to remove the majority of crude in the folds of paper, then use compressed air with the tip 10" or so from the paper. As said, after cleaning check it with a flash light or shop light bulb to make sure it isnt damaged. Unless the external filter is damaged and allows dirt to pass to the inside filter, the internal filter may never need replacing. I have never seen one get dirt or black anything on the internal filter. Most of them can be washed also with soapy water- follow mfg, directions on this though as some may not be washable, but again every one I have ever seen is washable but dont wash it every time it is dusty, there is no need to wash unless they get oily or greasy like from a busted hydraulic hose that sprays oil into the air intake.
I think someone said they blow thru the inside using a leaf blower. I have never tried that so I wont comment on that, but compressed air will clean them and not damage. I have used the same filter on farm tractors for over 5000 hours and never had to replace it. As long as your internal filter is clean each time,you know you exterior one is doing its job. Black smoke from the exhaust when the motor is not lugging is a sign you went too long without cleaning, that and noticeable loss of power.

For those of you that want to replace filters, go ahead and buy new ones every time they look black or dirty. The filter companies love you, but these are not like throw away automotive filters that cost $5 each. The reason they are 30-60 bucks each( or even more) is because they are better quality and meant to be cleaned and reinstalled - even washed and reinstalled.

Sorry, but on a diesel the air charge cools the engine also. Diesels move way more air than a gasser. Most of the larger engines have Pyrometers that monitor the exhaust and a clogged aircleaner will cook a turbo and piston tops in short order if ran for prolonged periods under full power. With our non turbo tractors it is less criticle but if bad enough I could see it cracking pistons under heavy loads. The rest of the post I agree 100% with, I blow all my air filters out from the inside out with a bent tip blowgun, then hit the outside. CJ
 
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That may be true that air helps to cool a diesel, cant say as I know enough to dispute that so I wont argue that point. I know for sure that air thru the radiator cools not only a diesel but also gas engines too. NO air thru radiator, no cool on water and steam doesnt cool very well at all. My poiont is that if it cant get air, it isnt going to make full or even partial power. I think it would starve for air and die due to excess fuel that cant burn prior to running hot. I've ran a lot of tractors in dusty conditions to the tune of dumping the cup completely full of dust and the filter pleats completely full when discing all day in dusty conditions so bad halve the time you couldnt see the front of your tractor. Sometimes we would have to servic the air filter at lunch and quitting time to keep them from starving for air. NEVER have I had one run hot. It will start severe black smoke first then loose power. By the way, they all had turbo-chargers also.
If you think about it, the fuel has to burn to produce heat, without air it wont burn as hot and therefore make less power even though the injectors are still pumping in the same amount of fuel. Cool vaporized partially burned fuel is not as hot as fuel burned with sufficient air for complete combustion.
 
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I see I posted my comments prematurely, I hadn't seen the post regarding filter cross over numbers or the one on how long the stock ones can last with proper care. I replied to an email notification and I read that one and the ones after it but not those above it. Sorry if anyone was offended. I have a general disregard for corporations anyway. They have gotten way to greedy and devious.

Ron
 
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Too many generalizations and non-applicable theories.

The air filter in our Kioti tractors is like a paper automotive filter. The tractors only come with a single filter though you can add a secondary filter, most of us don't. It is not 5$ but neither are automotive filters anymore. The NAPA version of our air filter is about 35$ last time I bought it if I recall correctly.

I have a bigger problem with the cost of that one hydro filter under the floor. A spin on filter that costs like 50$.
 
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Highbeam;2853231 I have a bigger problem with the cost of that one hydro filter under the floor. A spin on filter that costs like 50$.[/QUOTE said:
Highbeam, do you or anyone know if there are after market equivalents for that one?

Ron
 
   / Air filter change, wow! #18  
Too many generalizations and non-applicable theories.

The air filter in our Kioti tractors is like a paper automotive filter. The tractors only come with a single filter though you can add a secondary filter, most of us don't. It is not 5$ but neither are automotive filters anymore. The NAPA version of our air filter is about 35$ last time I bought it if I recall correctly.

I have a bigger problem with the cost of that one hydro filter under the floor. A spin on filter that costs like 50$.

Please let me know where I can find one for my DK35se for $50. I paid 87 to the dealer for that thing.:eek: ouch, let go of my arm!

James K0UA
 
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$109 for the hydrostatic filter for the DK50. (The last liar always wins, but sadly, not lying on this one)
 
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Please let me know where I can find one for my DK35se for $50. I paid 87 to the dealer for that thing.:eek: ouch, let go of my arm!

James K0UA

My OEM filter actually has a Donaldson #, I have not tried to cross it yet but the parts store should be able to. I'll also try to get you the welding info, it hasn't been good the last few days. CJ
 

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