Air District Truck Buy Back Program?

[schmism]

This is essentially what they do in japan to keep the auto industries in business. They make the licensing incrementally more expensive each year a vehicle gets older. So the longer you own it, the more expensive it becomes to license it each year. This is why there is a flood of low millage engine blocks (long blocks) that come out of Japan for jap cars.

 

[California]

America is pretty close to socialism - and as always it starts in CA. Come on, to ban wood burning??

What you guys don't realize is that California hit the limit on air pollution. There was pressure on the elected officials to Do Something as things got worse.

In Los Angeles when it got to the point where kids couldn't go outside for recess and athletic events were cancelled, all sorts of measures were enacted to get the pollution under control. Reducing wood burning is just one of California's responses to air pollution. Combined, these measures have brought the situation back to tolerable.

I took this photo in New Delhi. This is a false sunset at 4pm as the sun becomes obscured by smog. Shortly after as the afternoon commute picked up, it seemed to be twilight and you couldn't locate the sun in the sky. Breathing felt like too much bleach fumes when you clean the shower. I remember feeling the same thing as I stepped off the plane in Los Angeles back when I had to make business trips down there.

Whatever you experienced wherever you came from, the problems and the possible solutions are different here.

 

[RobertN]

Comparing my experience with the current situation - America is pretty close to socialism - and as always it starts in CA. Come on, to ban wood burning?? What's next? Love/hate sessions?

It usually starts in San Francisco, Berkeley, and LA. That is one problem with a huge diverse state. What is needed in one area, is not necessarily needed in another county 400 miles away. We really do not need, nor want, a lot of the "LA and San Fran" laws and regulations, in rural Placerville and Coloma.

The climate, geography, and over population of a couple regions necessitates some of the measures. Have you ever been in LA, Riverside, San Bernadino in late summer, no breeze, 105 degree weather? I have a few times; it's a wonder people can breath.

Same in the winter. Area's of Sacramento, Stockton, get no air movement. Particulate from wood burning is highly amplified. It just hangs in the air with the fog.

Even where I am, in the foothills east of Sacramento, the smog gets bad. Mostly, because it gets pushed from San Fran, east as more is added in Fairfield, and then Sacramento. It all stacks up against the foothills and sits there. Tough part is, the smog layer gets up to 2500-3500'.

So, yes, these rules do not make sense in your neighborhood. Most are questionable even in my neighborhood. But, in some area's, these rules are not enough...

 

[ultrarunner]

It usually starts in San Francisco, Berkeley, and LA. That is one problem with a huge diverse state. What is needed in one area, is not necessarily needed in another county 400 miles away. We really do not need, nor want, a lot of the "LA and San Fran" laws and regulations, in rural Placerville and Coloma.

The climate, geography, and over population of a couple regions necessitates some of the measures. Have you ever been in LA, Riverside, San Bernadino in late summer, no breeze, 105 degree weather? I have a few times; it's a wonder people can breath.

Same in the winter. Area's of Sacramento, Stockton, get no air movement. Particulate from wood burning is highly amplified. It just hangs in the air with the fog.

Even where I am, in the foothills east of Sacramento, the smog gets bad. Mostly, because it gets pushed from San Fran, east as more is added in Fairfield, and then Sacramento. It all stacks up against the foothills and sits there. Tough part is, the smog layer gets up to 2500-3500'.

So, yes, these rules do not make sense in your neighborhood. Most are questionable even in my neighborhood. But, in some area's, these rules are not enough...

Sometimes I have a very hard time following the logic of the rules and how they are enforced.

The Bay Area was under a no burn ban on the same day I was up in the Sierra Foothills... A Farmer had smudge pots burning and the smoke was heavy on a Bay Area no Burn Day?

It also seemed that wood burning is the norm in the area... yet the Bay Area 75 miles away is restricted.

Some rural counties don't even have the same smog rules for motor vehicles that are imposed here for the benefit of those counties.