AI and it's usefulness in everyday life?

[HawkinsHollow]

My issue with this, If you turn off the "deep think" which shows it's reasoning, and just look at the answer, it puts out a pretty good sounding answer, but its wrong. When you read it's thought part, in this specific case, it's making a general assumption that, being an industrial city. it likely had a foundry, that it likely supplied materials to CSA, and was likely a target of destruction in the 1864 Battle of Palatka.

But its "answer" is Yep, destroyed in 1864 and never restarted.

I continued questions about this specific Battle, which apparently was more of a raid. It atleast got the CS leader right, Captain JJ Dickinson, which is accurate, i read a local book about him, and his campaign.

But, then, I started a brand new query, and asked about the specific march 1864 raid, and what was damaged; and once again, it guessed likely dock yards, lumber mills, and cotton facilities, as well as rail facilities. BUT, no mention of a foundry.

It's like it's taking very very surface level, "more likely than not" guesses, and stating them as facts.

It's guessing what where likely industries and likely military and economic targets, and then it is assuming they were targeted.

Maybe it was destroyed in 1864 and this area or someone close bought 250 of the manholes in 1863 and didn't use them for 30 years. Manholes don't rot.

 

[paulsharvey]

Maybe it was destroyed in 1864 and this area or someone close bought 250 of the manholes in 1863 and didn't use them for 30 years. Manholes don't rot.

Eagle found on Sunbiz it was an operation business until 1935. I was able to pretty quickly Google a civil case against in in 1925, and I'm 80% i saw a 1928 mention of it.

Also, pretty sure nobody was using closed sewage collection in early 1860s, in FLa.

As for not rotting, a 100 year old manhole lid does certainly show its age. Thats what made me first Google it maybe a year ago. We were spotting utilities for a bore, and opened a Very old looking lid, "palatka foundry", now Yes, I 100% know that most cities have their name case into their lids, but this lid wasn't in Palatka.

Also, yes, I have (in a former life) installed a Jacksonville lid (JEA to be specific) on a St Johns County sewer manhole...

This isn't really a comment about manholes, just the AI was taking guesses, and spit balling basically. It's logic chain made some pretty big leeps

 

[paulsharvey]

Maybe the lesson is, you need to interact, and interrogate the AI. I probably should have asked it for the original source material for the destruction/damage. I'm still not against using it, and I'm glad I turned on the "thoughts process" chat.

It still can be a useful tool. Heck, I had it spit me out a recipe for a dinner idea tonight, which was B- dinner, with stuff we had laying around, so I'll take that as a win. Even then, I read it's logic chain, and because I mentioned i had 1# of lean ground beef, it's logic chain mentioned, "lean ground beef likely men's I want a heavy dinner, without using excess heavy cream or". Nope, lean ground beef was on sale.

But, the exercise with the manhole, makes me sure I would really want to scan over the manufacturer specs on that radiator I post way up top before considering it. It also makes me wonder if it didn't make the Form up, that I couldn't find any record of existing in another query.

 

[paulsharvey]

So, we recently have had a couple threads on dust control on private roads. Rather than post AI to that thread, I figured I'd try running it on this. Now, I think I know something about the topic, but it had something I'd never heard of, a bi-product of paper production. Now, is it effective, realistic, or even available? I don't know, but its an angle that I never thought of, that Could warrant a 2nd look.

"To effectively control dust on gravel roads while maintaining cost efficiency, consider the following structured approach:"

Organic Binders**
- **Lignin Sulfonate**:
- **Pros**: Biodegradable, binds gravel, lasts months. Often cost-effective if sourced locally (paper industry byproduct).
- **Cons**: May require reapplication after heavy rain.

 

[paulsharvey]

@bdhsfz6

 

[bigtiller]

@paulsharvey​

Lignin Sulfonate:** A byproduct of paper mills, binds dust for 6–12 months. Check local availability from paper mills for bulk discounts.

Lignin Sulfonate, sometimes nicknamed tree sap.

I used it for a few years and really liked it. It worked just as good as any of the salt brines that other companies applied. The best thing about it - it is not a salt based product. I would still be using it but the guy that owned the company that applied it, moved far away and he didn't want to drive that far. There are plenty of gravel roads here in Iowa, his business will be just fine where ever he lands.

 

[Drstrangeglove]

When I left the corporate world and bought this place, a big plus was NO cell service. We got rid of ours in 2007 and it has been a blessing in my life. From being on call 24/7 to you can't reach me I'm hunting tree rats/mushrooms and will get back when I get back....
Not for everyone but works for me

I have been on call 24/7 for nearly 30 years. About 15 years ago the company priced a charter company to fly to yellow stone to get me if something happened. I wouldn't know what to if I were like you.

Back to ai, I have gotten lazy and use chatgpt to write a python script to any api that I don't want to or can't find info on. It had made life easier.

 

[Eagle1]

I have been on call 24/7 for nearly 30 years. About 15 years ago the company priced a charter company to fly to yellow stone to get me if something happened. I wouldn't know what to if I were like you.

Back to ai, I have gotten lazy and use chatgpt to write a python script to any api that I don't want to or can't find info on. It had made life easier.

I did free support for several big accounts for a year when I walked away. All custom stuff and I had to get someone else up to speed. I just had enough and back to basics, bought a campground and then retired last year now just homestead the place.

Have not missed my cell for a moment....

 

[MossRoad]

I have been on call 24/7 for nearly 30 years. About 15 years ago the company priced a charter company to fly to yellow stone to get me if something happened. I wouldn't know what to if I were like you.

Back to ai, I have gotten lazy and use chatgpt to write a python script to any api that I don't want to or can't find info on. It had made life easier.

I was on call 24/7 at my last job. I planned a vacation to go camping in the woods with my young family. My boss was really upset and asked how he would get ahold of me if needed. I told him to paste a note to a box turtle and maybe I'd find it.

Then we had a long discussion on why his practice of divide and conquer of his employees so that all of us were specialists and no one knew how to do anyone else's job would someday come back to bite him, and with any luck, the place wouldn't self destruct while I was gone. It didn't, and he started to allow cross training.

 

[Drstrangeglove]

I was on call 24/7 at my last job. I planned a vacation to go camping in the woods with my young family. My boss was really upset and asked how he would get ahold of me if needed. I told him to paste a note to a box turtle and maybe I'd find it.

Then we had a long discussion on why his practice of divide and conquer of his employees so that all of us were specialists and no one knew how to do anyone else's job would someday come back to bite him, and with any luck, the place wouldn't self destruct while I was gone. It didn't, and he started to allow cross training.

We have tried to hire people to replace me for years. The schools are crap and we are in the middle of nowhere. The people that live here can't grasp the technology. Most can't spell vlan. Everyone else won't live here.

 

[CalG]

a novel use for this technology

 

[RayIN]

A man on irv2.com is using it for planning RVing trips. He said it's been pretty accurate so far, finding camping sites, mileage between stops and refueling stops.

 

[CalG]

Civic Awareness appears to be a great application,

5 Whys of a Monopoly:
"ChatGPT responses"

Why do monopolies exist?
Monopolies arise when a corporation grows so large that it can prevent competition from significantly affecting its market share. This dominance allows the corporation to control the market, leaving little room for rivals to challenge its position.

Why is a corporation able to grow so large and maintain such a dominant market position?
A corporation gains this power through a mix of favorable financing, exclusive contracts, cutting-edge technology, and the ability to consistently provide products or services that are in high demand by consumers. These advantages enable the company to outpace competitors.

Why does this corporation have access to these critical resources and advantages?
The corporation secures these privileges through a private process that involves strong political connections. By aligning with key politicians and supporting government initiatives, the corporation gains access to exclusive financial support, favorable contracts, and a technological edge. In return, the corporation acts as a tool for political influence, providing a channel for campaign funds and rewarding political loyalty.

Why do politicians and government initiatives choose to support these corporations?
Politicians and government leaders choose to support these corporations because they offer mutual benefits. By colluding with the corporation, politicians can ensure their continued power through access to resources and influence. The corporation, in exchange, receives protections, lucrative contracts, and preferential treatment that solidify its monopoly status, which serves broader political goals like military objectives, job creation, and rewarding loyal supporters.

Why are corporations willing to engage in this collusion with the government?
Corporations are willing to participate in this arrangement because they are guaranteed financial protection and long-term profitability. They are freed from the pressures of a competitive market, allowing them to maintain their dominant position with government support. Furthermore, executives and board members personally benefit from this arrangement through substantial salaries, bonuses, and perks, making the deal financially attractive for those at the top.

Conclusion:

The existence of monopolies is often the result of a strategic alliance between large corporations and political figures. These corporations are able to maintain their dominance through preferential treatment, exclusive advantages, and mutual support with government entities. In return for their compliance, they secure financial stability and long-term market control, while government officials leverage these corporations for political gain, ensuring a cycle of influence and reward.

 

[rontaki]

While we're getting all het up about AI here, keep in mind this is merely another step in our technological progression.

What's next? Will we (the current members of TBN) even be able to comprehend it? Or know it when we see it? Will it even need us?

 

[paulsharvey]

While we're getting all het up about AI here, keep in mind this is merely another step in our technological progression.

What's next? Will we (the current members of TBN) even be able to comprehend it? Or know it when we see it? Will it even need us?

Well, I'm sure there was a cave man that didn't think the sharp stick was good. "Real man beat water Buffalo with fists, sharp stick make man weak"

 

[paulsharvey]

I dont think we have seen the last of it, but Most of the stuff I've seen my life is.. well, not revolutionary. Most of the inventions haven't been a light switch moment. Home internet didn't instantly change much of anything, it took atleast 10 years for it to make really daily life changes. I think we got it in 95; and it probably wasn't until maybe 2010 (more like 2015 for me) that it became the norm to order online. Cell phones, it wasn't a light switch moment; i think I got my first one in 2000, but went through several periods without one from 2000-2010. Maybe the closest to "light switch" was Netflix; one day you rented dvds from Redbox and the next everyone did streaming, maybe in a 24 month period?

Smart phones; first I-phone came out in what, 08? (June 07 actually), but it took 5-6 years before every phone was smart.

Definitely not in my life, but how long from Ford Model T, till 50% of US homes had a car, probably not until late 40s? Electric at home; it was Late 40s when the US reached 85% homes having power after the first grid started in 1882. It took 65 years to 85%.

 

[paulsharvey]

I mean, in 2007, we still Faxed lumber orders to the lumber broker; even though email was readily available since 1995 atleast.

My county switched to electronic permit submittal in 2022, and although not a rich or really heavily populated county, it has 70,000 residents.

 

[MossRoad]

I dont think we have seen the last of it, but Most of the stuff I've seen my life is.. well, not revolutionary. Most of the inventions haven't been a light switch moment. Home internet didn't instantly change much of anything, it took atleast 10 years for it to make really daily life changes. I think we got it in 95; and it probably wasn't until maybe 2010 (more like 2015 for me) that it became the norm to order online. Cell phones, it wasn't a light switch moment; i think I got my first one in 2000, but went through several periods without one from 2000-2010. Maybe the closest to "light switch" was Netflix; one day you rented dvds from Redbox and the next everyone did streaming, maybe in a 24 month period?

Smart phones; first I-phone came out in what, 08? (June 07 actually), but it took 5-6 years before every phone was smart.

Definitely not in my life, but how long from Ford Model T, till 50% of US homes had a car, probably not until late 40s? Electric at home; it was Late 40s when the US reached 85% homes having power after the first grid started in 1882. It took 65 years to 85%.

I can tell you this.... my grandma was born in 1896. She came over 'on the boat' around 1902. Her father built a house "way out in the country". They were the 2nd to last house on the road. Their neighbor was "a rich farmer.... he had a horse".
("quotes from my grandma")

She died in 1994. In her lifetime she saw the advent of indoor plumbing, electric lights, cars, paved roads, radio, telephones, medicine, television, air travel, nuclear power, space travel, home computers, cell phones, etc...

Nothing was a light switch moment, but in the big picture, it happened in the blink of an eye.

Her house location today...

 

[paulsharvey]

So, local independent grocery sold and closed here a couple weeks/month ago; and all of those stupid "groups", next door, Facebook, ect, people are guessing what's going in. The new owner does own a couple liquor stores; so the Karen's are mad. Was talking to son, and he asked ChatGPT to come up with a business, based on the demographics, floor plan, and the purchase price.

 

[paulsharvey]

It estimated that you could sell about 300 subscriptions to the gym, at $40/month; plus counter sales, and possible premium members ships, with an estimated build out of $100-180k; $60-100 in gyn equipment; approx another $50k, between POS, security, and marketting.