Ag - Industrial - Turf - Which ones?

[tommyz270]

I had a short discussion in another thread, but thought I'd start a new one.

I'm getting close to buying a b7510. Will use it around the house (small yard) for mowing (not really needed, but will use when I don't want to push and feel lazy) and moving some dirt across my lawn. I have a project to where I'm going to be driving across my lawn with a bucket full of clay/rock.

Plus, will use it out at the property for digging, grading, bush-hogging, etc.

Was thinking about getting a set of turf and another set of rims/tires that are R4's (industrial).

Thoughts? Would the industrial tires tear up my yard with a full bucket even if careful and on a hill?

Thanks

 

[kthompson]

Doubt when it comes down to it you will change tires as often as you think.

I have a little heavier tractor with the industrial tires and it normally does not show on my lawn when it is on it for mowing or spraying. Then I don't run on it when wet and my soil is not a soft soil either.

But on you lawn; is it soft with moisture often, what will you be bush-hogging (grass, small trees that leave sharp stump?). I would suspect your best would be turf tires.

 

[tommyz270]

For the brush-hog, it will be weeds, possible small trees - definitely not using the turf tires on that.

Turf tires also don't work as well when digging or using the bucket heavy.

Just not sure if the industrial would mess up the lawn with a full/heavy bucket.

Yard isn't too soft because they didn't put a lot of top soil down, but I've been trying to make it softer....

 

[harpoonalt]

since this topic has been beaten to death, I'll tell you the truth. I chose the R4's on my BX2350 because I thought they looked cool as ****. The fact that they work really well in the winter and don't mark my lawn is just a bonus. The turf's just don't look good to me. Anyone else?

 

[LD1]

If you di decide to but two sets, I would skip the R4's and get the ags and the turfs. The R4's are a compromise between the two, more traction than turfs and not as hard on the lawn as ags. If you want to tread lightly, use the turfs, if you got a lot of dirt work to do, use the ags.

If you only buy one set, Id get the r4's. It might be just a little harder on the lawn, but you'll be glad you did when it comes to loader/dirt work.

Personally i perfer the ags. But I do a lot of dirt work and firewood cutting/pulling trailers and logs. I also use it to mow my lawn, and if it's dry, It dont hurt the lawn at all...if I take the loader off.

If it is a little wet/soft in places, yea it ruts it up a little, but at least I get through it where as turfs get stuck so easy. But that's me, I live in the country and dont give a crap about my yard. Personally I hate mowing it. It would not bother me at all if a farmer spilled a tanker full of roundup in my yard that way I wouldn't have to mow it all year, or the next.

 

[tommyz270]

Never thought about the winter - we don't get a lot here, but do get some snow and ice and our driveway is on a hill -- would be nice to move it out of the way and would probably need the industrial's to do that - turf would probably spin

Also, if I go with one, it saves me money!!

 

[johnk]

If the ground is hard and you're not in 4wd they Ags will be fine on your lawn.

 

[wincher]

It doesn't sound like blazing new roads will be you gig so as much as i feel everyone with a tractor needs R1's you should stick to one set and go with R4's. Your loader work will go great and the lawn should not suffer if you pay attention to the time you do it.

 

[Tom_H]

I got ags and turfs with my BX in 2000. Ags cause no extra damage to lawn, but turfs spin when trying to plow. Turfs have sat under the house for past 8 years.

I also bought an electric impact wrench with correct size lug socket and hydraulic quick stroke jack from Harbor Freight, for about $30 each when they were on 1/2 price sale. This allowed for NASCAR style quick wheel change.

 

[tommyz270]

Tom H - Very interesting... So you have the turf tires and the ag tires? You didn't go with the industrial tires?

I figured the turf would spin when tilling, loader work, etc... but that's why I was thinking the turf for the house and the industrial's for the tough work.

I was actually thinking about getting a set of ag's and a set of turf's, but after everyone's input, I think if I get the industrial only, it would be a good middle road for all work I want to do - yard safe, loader work...

Thanks for the input, that was very useful also

 

[LBrown59]

I had a short discussion in another thread, but thought I'd start a new one.
I'm getting close to buying a b7510. Will use it around the house (small yard) for mowing (not really needed, but will use when I don't want to push and feel lazy) and moving some dirt across my lawn. I have a project to where I'm going to be driving across my lawn with a bucket full of clay/rock.
Plus, will use it out at the property for digging, grading, bush-hogging, etc.
1*Was thinking about getting a set of turfs and another set of rims/tires that are R4's (industrial).
Thoughts? Would the industrial tires tear up my yard with a full bucket even if careful and on a hill?
Thanks

1*Why buy 2 sets of the wrong tires and fuss with changing them back and forth for nothing.
Get 1 set of AGs and avoid the hassle.

since this topic has been beaten to death, I'll tell you the truth.
2* I chose the R4's on my BX2350 because
I thought they looked cool as ****.
The fact that they work really well in the winter
The turf's just don't look good to me. Anyone else?

2*Neither do the AGs on myBX26 even with both the FEL & BH on it at the same and a 60''MMM. and don't mark my lawn is a bonus and better traction is another benefit.
All this hype about AGs destorying the lawn is just that hype.

If you d0 decide to but two sets, I would skip the R4's and get the ags and the turfs.
3*The R4's are a compromise between the two, more traction than turfs and not as hard on the lawn as ags. If you want to tread lightly, use the turfs, if you got a lot of dirt work to do, use the ags.
4*If you only buy one set, Id get the r4's. It might be just a little harder on the lawn, but you'll be glad you did when it comes to loader/dirt work.
Personally i perfer the ags. But I do a lot of dirt work and firewood cutting/pulling trailers and logs. I also use it to mow my lawn, and if it's dry,
5*AGs dont hurt the lawn at all...if I take the loader off.
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3* IE won't do either job rite.
4*Nope go with AGs.
5*AGS are fine on my BXs even with 2 or 3 attachments attached.

It doesn't sound like blazing new roads will be you gig so as much as i feel everyone with a tractor needs
6*R1's you should stick to one set and go with R4's. Your loader work will go great and the lawn should not suffer if you pay attention to the time you do it.

6*I don't agree .Id go with R1's .

 

[LD1]

Not sure what size tires you'll be dealing with or how expensive turfs are, But when I got my 3400, I wanted ag tires. All the dealer had was the r-4's, but he said he could put the ags on it and they were about $300-400 cheaper for the set. 11.2-24

Depending on how expensive turfs are, it probabally wouldn't be that much more to go the ag/turf way and have the best of both worlds, instead of comrpomising traction.

I'll bet you'll find that if you got ags, you would still do a lot of yard work with them, you just lern when conditions are right.

I will say though, the onlything better about the R4's is their ply rating is the best of all 3.

 

[InlineDieselFan]

as mentioned R-4's are a compromise tire. I live in wet Western WA. AG tires would certainly give better traction but my so called yard would be totally wasted. Unless you are mowing a whole lot of really nice finished lawn I do not see a real need for turf tires.

steve

 

[harpoonalt]

The R4's are a compromise tire, but we own tractors that are called upon to do all sorts of things. If you just mow or are strictly earth moving then by all means get the tire to fit your needs. Most people aren't going to change tires for a 1 hour job only to switch back after they're done. I recomend R4's because they do everything pretty well and nothing badly which probably fits 90% of our needs. Ags wear fast on hard surfaces, but shine in the woods and low traction situations. They can mark up softer lawns and aren't known for a smooth ride.Turfs are gentle on the earth but aren't as good when the ground is soft and you need a bite. They do ride very smooth and wear better on hard surfaces. R4's are the middle child. Not great at anything but not bad either. Only you can decide based on what you need. You'll be fine whatever you choose.

 

[savageactor7]

Tommy, I have turf tires that have chains on them year around.

I do heavy excavating and move thousands of buckets of clay from piles staged around the place every summer.

Also do a lot of tree harvesting dragging them with the 3PH...and use the FEL for snow removal on a 200' gravel driveway. Oh and we mow about 6 acres in the summer.

The reason I chose turf tires was because I didn't want to leave any ruts.

There's a 3+acre section I mow to a fairway cut cause it's been a golf practice area for the family.

 

[Duffster]

Something like this would be my pick

Tires for agricultural machinery - NOKIAN-HEAVY-TYRES-LTD - Tire and track for construction equipment

 

[Will_C]

I had turf tires on the BX I just traded and I got them on my new B2620. I mowed with the BX and while I don't plan on mowing with the 2620, I will be working on lawn areas with it. I also plow 400' of driveway. I agree that turfs with chains can give you the most utility with the least cost.
Will

 

[Tom_H]

Tom H - Very interesting... So ... You didn't go with the industrial tires?

Nope, and if I had it to do over, I'd just get ags. They do no more damage to lawn than turfs, and they give the best traction with ground engagement work. I would not personally go with industrials. That's just my own personal opinion.

 

[Altex]

I had a short discussion in another thread, but thought I'd start a new one.

I'm getting close to buying a b7510. Will use it around the house (small yard) for mowing (not really needed, but will use when I don't want to push and feel lazy) and moving some dirt across my lawn. I have a project to where I'm going to be driving across my lawn with a bucket full of clay/rock.

Plus, will use it out at the property for digging, grading, bush-hogging, etc.

Was thinking about getting a set of turf and another set of rims/tires that are R4's (industrial).

Thoughts? Would the industrial tires tear up my yard with a full bucket even if careful and on a hill?

Thanks

Go with AGs. You said you have a small yard with hard ground. Dry lawn with AGs is not a problem. About that project of driving across your lawn, it's just one project. And if the lawn gets smashed a little it will grow back.

Think about all the tasks and compromises. For digging, grading, hoggin, uses on mud, some snow and ice, etc... AGs are gonna give you the best traction. Now if you're worried about the lawn and get R4's or Turf, you'll be compromising traction for all the other tasks.

I have a small yard/lawn area like you and I use a push rotary mower for that. But, when I drive my tractor out in the property (I've got some slopes too) for all the other tasks, I'm sure glad I've got AG!

 

[gerford]

No doubt in my mind that Ags work great. I mow an acre of lawn along with all the other tasks a BX23 is built for and the Ag tires leave far less marks in my lawn than my old John Deere 317 with turf tires. The old John Deere would spin the wheels and go down to dirt in no time. The AGs just have great traction and never slip. Of course if you are in wet ground, the tires would grip even better!