A travesty you should know about

   / A travesty you should know about #22  
On Richard's behalf I do not see that he is being defensieve about the issue so much as being frustrated - as I am - with the ignorance of some individuals that view themselves as the sole saviours of the animial kingdom with total ignorance that the leather in their shoes and on the seats of their Volvos is not synthetic but came from the backs of live critters.
And while I am at it - horses are not pets but are working animals - just try to house break one and let me come look at your litter box following that exercise!
And as for the mistreating of PMU foals please come on over to my place and lay your eyes on the 16.3, 1400lb mistreated baby that is currrently clearing 4' jumps with enthusiasim - he really looks like he is ready for the killers and has been sorley mistreated.
As for adopting one - looks like we was had - as I laid down some pretty serious green for this critter when he was a mere weanling from Canada. For the uninformed and it looks there are several here about - these four legged critters are very much in demand and are being imported by the 100's as Sporting Horses in return for the American Green.
Come on troops lets leave this kinda stuff to the hankie heads with PETA labels tatooed on their fore-parts.










Come on troops!--- lets leave the PETA doo-doo else where and get a gripp on reality here!
 
   / A travesty you should know about #23  
Rich,
By all means I'm glad that you started this post and you are one of the kindest speaking and a complete gentleman in your side of the issue. I am not the least bit mad at you or incensed about your posting or calling it a travesty. You saw both sides of the issue and related that. Most of the people that are on the other side refuse to see anything but their side of it even when you point out the opposite view. You have stated your opinion very eloquently and with class. I'm a little brass at times. You're a good guy Rich keep it up. No hard feelings from my side at all.

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   / A travesty you should know about #24  
Jor El,
My email addresses are mesasage@machlink.com at the office and mesasage@msn.com at home.

As an aside to everyone that is interested in buying these foals you can just go straight to the ranches and buy them. As foals they sell them for a couple hundred dollars, if that, after they are weaned depending on if they are papered or not. The papered ones are usually bought for a little higher price. Much less than the adoption price. If you're really interested I can set you up with the North Dakota ranches and give you names of guys that will ship them for you. You don't have to pay a fortune to adopt one.

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   / A travesty you should know about #25  
Good points, Richard!

Man, isn't it amazing how much DISinformation is out there ... and, unfortunately, "if it's on the internet, it must be true!".
Wonder how many converts the enviro-wackos would recruit if they ever researched and divulged the truth instead of the crap they spew.
Let's see now ... it's a proven "fact" that silicone breat implants kill, deform and just generally amnoy women ... must be true since totally unbiased lawyers say so, right? Of course ... research and science keeps saying the opposite ... but are you going to believe a scientist or a lawyer?
Drilling in ANWR will destroy caribou ... every environmentalist knows that. Wonder how many of then have ever been to ANWR ... much less in the winter when you might be able to drill or build on that muskeg? Or in the summer when the air is so thick with black flies and skeeters that you literally can't breathe without inhaling insects. Wonder how the drilling would affect the caribou when they'll be thousands of miles away in the eastern arctic? Heck, who cares ... we can't let science get in our way ... we'll publish some pictures of cute little baby seals off Newfoundland ... no one will notice the difference.
Bridget Bardot and her idiot squad spend their time throwing paint on little old ladies who wear mink stoles .... forget the fact that the mink are farm raised expressly to be slaughtered for their hides ... yeah, somewhat like we treat beef cattle. Now I believe that leather is made from animal skins too ... ever see an animal-freak that dared to throw paint at a biker wearing leathers??
Sorry folks ... the fact that a bunch of rabid anti-civilization nutcases retread the same old tired data again and again on the internet and in the funnypapers don't make it true ... any more than all the lies and statistics (oops sorry that's redundant .. statistics are lies) prove that guns kill people and we would be better off without them.

Before I accept any author as a credible authority ... I do a little research on them ... and the animal rights groups have not demonstrated ANY credibility so far. (Nor have the NOW cows, gun-grabbers or slavery-reparations freakazoids).

If an article shocks the heck out of you ... think about why you just heard about something that shocking .... is it really possible that nothing would have leaked out years and years ago? Do you really think that everyone who works for the drug labs, the ranches supplying them, the drivers that deliver supplies, etc, etc ... everyone of them was a sadist who didn't care? I find that almost as unlikely as Clinton having a conscience. (any of the Clintons, for that matter)

too bad that common sense ain't
 
   / A travesty you should know about #26  
oh ... another thought .... if any of this was reported by Dan Rather or any of his leftist buddies from any of the major networks on one of those quasi-news shows (like 20/20) ... well, there's your positive proof that there's nothing behind the story but thin air!

too bad that common sense ain't
 
   / A travesty you should know about #27  
Wingnut and gvw thanks for the words, well said in my opinion.

Muhammad sent me an email that he deleted the article because of copyright reasons. If anyone wants it I can email it to them. Just let me know I have it saved on my computer.

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   / A travesty you should know about #28  
Richard,

As I told you privately, I appreciate your info-and-experience sharing on this issue.

I understand Muhammad's deletion, but would like to have you e-mail me the article. My girlfriend was looking forward to reading it, as the whole Premarin "thing" is a topic among the women she works with (*and she is also interested in the animal-treatment issues).

Thanks again (received your reply a-ok), /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Larry
 
   / A travesty you should know about #29  
Larry,
I'll send it before I leave today and thanks again for the email.

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   / A travesty you should know about #30  
Rich,

I'm glad you posted otherwise I never would have heard of this. My wife gets most of the magazines CowBoyDoc mentioned but I don't read 'em. I spending alot of time clearing land for pasture, barns, house, etc. Because of what CowBoyDoc posted I have some options on getting new horses. My wife has one and I'm sure my little girl will eventually want on of these four legged critters that eats money..... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

As an aside on the Enviroment Wackos /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif, there was an editorial in the Wall Street Journal today about the water rights/supply in the Klamath valley. The Environmental groups have sued to stop water from being given to the ranchers and farmers becase the EPA has said that some little critter, a snail or slug or was it a fish, is endangered. The biologists can't decide HOW much water the critters need so the farmers/ranchers get none/little. I think there has been some vandalism on the locks to get the water to flow and the US Marshalls have had to come in to guard the facilities.(Thats from another news report) Anyway the court stopped the water to the ranchers/farmers so they are basically dead and out of business. The price per acre before the water was stopped was about $3,500. Supposedly its below a hundred now. Not sure I believe that but that is what the paper said. The Environmental groups are now wanting the government to buy out the ranchers/farmers at $4,000 per acre. I can believe the buyout. Some E-Groups want to have all humanity living in cities with densities as high as 500 people per acre which is a couple of times the density of the densist part of NYC. Again, according to the WSJ. I would believe this as well.

Food for thought. I hope. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Later...
Dan
 

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