A sad day on the farm

[mx842]

Ours is the white vinyl backed insulation, its 4 yrs old and it looks great still.
I had the same insulation in a 36 x72 building we did back in 2004 and it still looks good too. We always get light colored buildings, they don't get as hot
so its easier on the insulation.

You know, it's funny because now that I think about it I also know of several other buildings that have that in their buildings and it seems to be doing well. We built a small building at our hunt club about 5 years ago and the stuff in there seems to be holding up ok also. I'm guessing there may be different brands where some hold up better. My buddy has a welding shop and in just 4 years that stuff has cracks all over. Maybe it may has to do with the Arc rays from welding all the time. I go to another building that is a warehouse from time to time and that insulation has not held up well either especially up top that stuff got hard and brittle just a few years after the building was built and pieces of it started falling. That place is dark and somewhat humid most of the time so it may be environment related. Also it could have something to do with installation.
If it works for you then that's all that matters. I never liked the lighter colors too much. I know they reflect the uv rays better but I pretty much wanted to go with colors that matched my house which is brick with a medium grey roof so I went with red with the same roof material as the house for my shop.

They should finish the roof today and start putting up trim and maybe even start on the gutters. At noon today it will be one week from bare concrete slab to the walls with a roof over them. These two guys really rock and roll and are very particular with their work.

 

[YanmarFever]

Mx, that insulation comes in different grades and thickness of the vinyl, so you have to order the heavy duty one.
I like light buildings because its 89 degrees here today and almost everyday.
That's why there are mostly white or silver cars here, they stay cooler.

 

[mx842]

I get you on the light colors, I really do. It gets hot here too but I still like some color in the things around me. It's a give and take world out here.

 

[YanmarFever]

Mx, I like earth tone colors.
Is your building galvanized? Those 2 guys a really flying putting that thing together!

It looks really nice!

 

[mx842]

Mx, I like earth tone colors.
Is your building galvanized? Those 2 guys a really flying putting that thing together!

It looks really nice!

When I did my first building I was going to make the side walls Desert tan with a sandstone roof and ash grey for the trim. Then I changed my mind to make it sort of match the colors of my house.
Yes I asked about that and the guy that was putting the building up said that medal for a diry building was the highest rating you can get and these buildings are one step below that.
Yes they were, they are done now and have moved on. I'll post pics of the finished product when I get some time. In all they had 72 hours total on this job. I never thunk that would happen.

 

[mx842]

here are a few mor pics.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^^
Nice!!!

 

[YanmarFever]

I hope ours turns out that nice.

Way to go!

 

[mx842]

I hope ours turns out that nice.

Way to go!

Hey, I was wondering what you guys are doing about your inside walls with spray on insulation. What you are covering them with? I was thinking about white 29 gauge siding but I'm sure there has to be something better. I'm surely not going wood framing and OSB.

 

[Jstpssng]

Hey, I was wondering what you guys are doing about your inside walls with spray on insulation. What you are covering them with? I was thinking about white 29 gauge siding but I'm sure there has to be something better. I'm surely not going wood framing and OSB.

You've been burned out once and don't want to go down that road again?

 

[mx842]

You've been burned out once and don't want to go down that road again?

I heard that, been there done that and it didn't turn out very well. I want to put something up for at leaste 10 ft. Medal will probably be a real bear to deal when installing receptacles and switches on the walls. I had an electrician come by yesterday to give me a ball park idea on what it's going to cost to wire my building and as we were walking around the shop looking at where everything is going to go I could see the dollar signs flashing in his eyes. After we went through everything he told me to be figuring on somewhere between $25 and $30,000.00. I was thinking somewhere around $20,000.00, Dang that was a shocker. It probably wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't for all the 50/60 amp circuits I need, the price of that wire alone is going to cost around $6,000.00 maybe more.
He's putting together a better estimate sometime today and hopefully it won't be more than what he tole me yesterday. The problem is you can't get anyone to do anything done anymore. The ones that are willing to work are so booked up it takes a month or more to even get an estimate.

 

[ericm979]

You could run conduit on the outside of the metal panels to avoid putting holes in them. I do not know what electrical code is for running wires inside metal framed walls but you might be required to use conduit anyhow to meet code.

 

[bigtiller]

I heard that, been there done that and it didn't turn out very well. I want to put something up for at leaste 10 ft. Medal will probably be a real bear to deal when installing receptacles and switches on the walls. I had an electrician come by yesterday to give me a ball park idea on what it's going to cost to wire my building and as we were walking around the shop looking at where everything is going to go I could see the dollar signs flashing in his eyes. After we went through everything he told me to be figuring on somewhere between $25 and $30,000.00. I was thinking somewhere around $20,000.00, Dang that was a shocker. It probably wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't for all the 50/60 amp circuits I need, the price of that wire alone is going to cost around $6,000.00 maybe more.
He's putting together a better estimate sometime today and hopefully it won't be more than what he tole me yesterday. The problem is you can't get anyone to do anything done anymore. The ones that are willing to work are so booked up it takes a month or more to even get an estimate.

The cheap, fast & easy way to do that is to screw on the metal panels first and then screw on junction boxes for the outlets and switches and then connect everything with conduit. The conduit and junction boxes will be exposed but if it is done neatly, it can be a work of art to be proud of.

Trying to place the outlets and switches before putting on the panels is a headache. The ribs in the panels are usually in the wrong spot and/or wrong depth.

EDIT ; ericm beat me to the post icon.

 

[YanmarFever]

You need to get other bids before you give him the go ahead.
Go to an electric supply store and ask who they would recommend if you don't know any other sparky runners.

My last shop was 36 x 72 and we had 25 outlets and 220 and it was only $5500.and it was all in conduit.

 

[kthompson]

I am just seeing this and so sorry. My parents lost their house before I was born, and my mom especially often talked about it.

Your comment about your insurance, hope it worked better than you felt it would. If you are having issues, there don't just accept it. At least contract your State Dept of Insurance. You will need copy of your insurance policy.

Some companies will not pay for your loss until you replace it. Or at least not for the replacement cost. The agent, if honest can be a real help in all this. Some companies really don't want the agent involved. But they should be willing to go over your contract in full description if not then if must talk with lawyer. Or, find an honest agent who sells the same plan. I was the agent who supplied the info to a couple who lost their house, and the adjuster was telling them this and that and not the truth. If your contract pays replace cost, it pays to replace it.

 

[dodge man]

I have OSB on the inside of my shop. You can paint it sort of just to make it white and brighter. It’s also strong enough you can hang stuff off of it that’s not real heavy. The bad is it’s not as fire resistant as metal. I’m not sure if I posted in this thread earlier or not but I bought a bench grinder stand. Before it was mounted to a wall and throwing sparks against the OSB. Your post made me get the stand so I can drag it out away from the wall in the middle of the concrete floor for safety’s sake.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I keep my grinder by the barn door, and throw the sparks outside.

 

[Jstpssng]

A length of 24" wide aluminum flashing can help keep the sparks away from the wood.

 

[mx842]

You need to get other bids before you give him the go ahead.
Go to an electric supply store and ask who they would recommend if you don't know any other sparky runners.

My last shop was 36 x 72 and we had 25 outlets and 220 and it was only $5500.and it was all in conduit.

Yeah but how long ago was that? I wired my other building myself and I had over $10,000.00 in it and that was 15 years ago. I need 4, 50 amp circuits and one 60 amp circuit and the runs are going to be roughly 34' to almost 60'. The wire alone is going to cost a bunch, have you priced wire lately? Also I have called at leaste 6 different companies before I found this guy. Come to find out he is a friend of my oldest son and I believe he will do me right.

 

[mx842]

A length of 24" wide aluminum flashing can help keep the sparks away from the wood.

I had a 316 ss border as a base board in every room in the building. Also I had medal panels 14' high on all of the walls where I welded and at my plasma table. The walls that were exposed had 2 coats of fire retardant paint. I don't know what else I could do accept maybe find a new hobby like maybe crocheting or needle point.