A long summer's work payoff

MarkV · Oct 17, 2001

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Dang Richard, I've passed through smaller towns than that barn./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Glad your all set up and all the babies are at their new home. I know you put a lot of hours in this summer. Looks like it all paid off.

MarkV

billboe · Oct 18, 2001

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Very impressive! I didn't realize the size until I had a closer look at the 5th wheel sitting under the overhang (the trailer looks small and I know it is NOT!)...

How about some pictures of the inside?

NICE JOB!

Billboe

MikePA · Oct 18, 2001

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We horse people refer to those types of trailers as goosenecks. Much easier to tow than a bumper pull IMHO.

billboe · Oct 18, 2001

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Gooseneck vs. 5th wheel...

I'm probably totally wrong here, but, I thought it depended upon the type of connector... With gooseneck using a ball type connector and the 5th wheel using the ?receiver? type connector!?!? Of course, I didn't look close enough at the photos to see the which one Doc has...

Someone set me straight... I know you will... ;-)

Billboe

MikePA · Oct 18, 2001

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You're right, it does depend upon the type of connector. The GN uses a ball and the 5th wheel looks like a tractor trailer connection. When we purchased our stock trailer for transporting our horses, the standard connection, in fact the only connection we saw was the GN. I have a DrawTite removable GN hitch in the bed of my truck which allows me to still use the bed (extended cab, short bed) of my truck...no hitch ball sticking up in the middle.

Bird · Oct 18, 2001

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Yep, you understand the difference all right. The thing I'm not sure of is why all the travel trailers (recreational vehicles) I know of use the 5th wheel while all the other trailers I can think of (horse, dump, utility, etc.) use the goose neck.

Bird

billboe · Oct 18, 2001

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<font color=blue>The thing I'm not sure of is why all the travel trailers (recreational vehicles) I know of use the 5th wheel while all the other trailers I can think of (horse, dump, utility, etc.) use the goose neck.</font color=blue>

Good question Bird! I think I've only seen one 5th wheel type horse trailer and that was a VERY BIG one!!

I wonder if the 5th wheel is rated for more pulling power!?!? It certainly looks more substantial... Seems like it would be a bit easier to hook up also!?!?

Billboe

mikim · Oct 18, 2001

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could the diff be the amount of weight directly on the hitch? Assuming that a 5th wheel can take more weight than a gooseneck??
mike

Bird · Oct 18, 2001

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More pulling power, or higher tongue weight might have something to do with it. I know I used to pull a 5th wheel travel trailer that had 2,500# pin weight (and that was just a 32' "lite" trailer). I would have thought some of the construction equipment I've seen on the goose neck trailers would be awfully heavy, but maybe the weight was more on the axles than the pin.

Bird

PaulInMi · Oct 19, 2001

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Richard-

If you ever teach a class in time management, sign me up/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif!!

Paul

StoneHeartFarm · Oct 20, 2001

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Fine lookin' barn. Now, over the next few weeks, see if you can answer this question: Did you build it big enough? I'm just wondering how often that happens with barns. My own project should be starting here in a couple of weeks and I've already increased the size several times. (Nothing like building something in the howling wind, driving snow and frozen ground. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif). After all the size changes I'm wondering if it's possible to ever be truly happy with the size?

SHF

cowboydoc · Oct 20, 2001

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SHF,
If I was building this for my last barn then no I didn't build it big enough. BUT we don't plan on being longer than 5-7 more years. I have a friend who is in his late 50's and is going to be retiring about then and the plan is to go and take over his practice. My true dream barn would be 200x150. I have a ranch out in Idaho that I bought with my uncle there and when I get ready to move out there that's what we are going to build. For right now though this barn is perfect and it's still small enough that I can get my money out of it when I go to sell later. When you get too big you have to wait awhile to find the right person to buy it. What I wanted for now was a place for the girls to go, especially in the winter and be able to be warm while I worked horses, stable the horses that needed it, and be able to ride inside in the winter. I've accomplished all that with this barn. I don't think I'll have any regrets for what my needs are now. If this was to be my last barn that I would have built, yes serious regrets.

cowboydoc · Oct 20, 2001

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Bird,
I really think it's just a matter of preference. The only real difference that I know is the hookup and that's the way it's been done mentality. My gooseneck is rated for 45,000 lbs. Just about every gooseneck hitch out there is rated for 25,000-35,000 lbs. I really don't think there is much difference between the two it's just preference.

StoneHeartFarm · Oct 20, 2001

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Comwboydoc

I'm sorry, this begs the question: Is 200x150 big enough? Every time I think I've got the size thing nailed down, I think: But I could just go 2' wider or 2' longer....

Can't keep playing this bigger game much longer or I'll have to wait until spring. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

SHF

cowboydoc · Oct 20, 2001

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LOL SHF.

Bird · Oct 20, 2001

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<font color=blue>that's the way it's been done mentality</font color=blue>

I suspect that's about it. Different people probably invented the two types, some went one way, some the other, and it just got to be "customary."

Bird

MikePA · Oct 22, 2001

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One nice thing about a GN is the amount of space that's taken up in the bed of the pickup versus a 5th wheel. Even with my removable GN hitch installed, there's plenty of room in the bed of the pickup to load wood shavings, feed, etc. A friend of mine has a F250 (460 V8) that he uses to haul a travel trailer around. When his 5th wheel connection is in the bed of his pickup, there aint room for much else.

rf33 · Oct 22, 2001

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Thats a mighty nice looking barn, and some really nice looking horses. They have that good foundation look to them. (The horses that is). I like the others here am baffled by how you find the time to get all of these projects done, while working 50-60 hours at a regular job. Nice looking trailer too. What do you pull it with? I have seen some that size and even a little bigger (up to about a 12 horse slant) at the cutting horse events, but all of the big ones were being pulled by Peterbuilt of Freightliner heavy haulers. I think that 7 of those rope horses would really be quite a load to haul.

rf33

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cowboydoc · Oct 22, 2001

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Thanks for the compliments rf33. I see you have an eye for good horseflesh. Not many people know foundation breeding when they see it. My hat's off to you. As far as time it's all we do. I'm either at the office or I'm out working the ranch, even half of our meals are out in a field somewhere or in the barn. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Besides golf once in awhile it's our life. I wouldn't trade it for anything though.

With regards to pulling the trailer look in the hay pics and that's my hauler. It's a 00 Ford Supercab Superduty diesel. It does a fine job with the trailer even loaded down. It's hopped up a little with a 60 hp Superchip. I've got all the gauges, exhaust, etc. too. Makes a nice hauler.