90wt vs 140wt

   / 90wt vs 140wt #1  

Ron25

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I'm about to change my gear oil in the transmission on my Iseki 1910 but the only oil I seem to find in 90 wt is a GL5. From reading some post here, GL5 might not be so good?

A dealer here said they only sell a GL1/140 and use that because the 90wt is so thin now. My tractor suggest 90wt. and my tiller, the same. What happens, if anything by using a heavier oil?

comments?

thanks
Ron
 
   / 90wt vs 140wt #2  
Ron, with a few caveats, I'd recommend that you use what your manual is calling for, namely 90w. Thicker is not always better. In fact, in my International trucks, I'm switching from 80W-90 gear oil to straight 50W motor oil in my manual (synchro) transmission. Interestingly, this is NOT what the manufacturer originally recommended, but I have it on very good authority that my tranny will work much better with the 50W motor oil.

It seems that you can't always go by what the manufacturer recommends, although I think that the vast majority of the time it's advisable. Another case of going against the manufacturer's recommendations might be motor oil in a Kubota. They recommend 10W-30 for the most common temperature ranges, but it's very hard to find 10W-30 in a diesel formulation, whether conventional or synthetic.

As for [90W not being as thick as it used to be] ... that makes very little sense to me, and I'd disregard that input.

If your tranny is non-synchro, I'd definitely go with the 90W, or 80W-90, or 85W-90, with whatever EP rating the manufacturer recommends. If it's a synchro tranny, you might want to do some more research to see if you really need EP additives. While EP additives are usually needed in differentials, they are often not needed (or desirable) in synchro trannies. (I'm told they can interfere with the ability of the synchro rings to engage the gears that they're supposed to get up to speed). Maybe a GL-1 rating (no EP additives) in a 90W would be a good choice in a synchro, or a straight motor oil (30W, 40W or 50W).

As you can tell, I don't have a definitive answer for you, and won't pretend to. Just wanted to give you some food for thought. But again, I don't think that 90W-140 would be such a good idea.

Good luck, John
 
   / 90wt vs 140wt #3  
Ron,
As CT Tree Guy said, it's probably best to stick to your manufacturer's recommendations. However, with that being said, I too switched my trans oil (recommended 90wt) to 85/140wt and it shifts WAY better and smoother than ever before. Maybe in my case it might have had some crummy oil in it in the first place, being a Chinese tractor?

I don't know for sure either, but I think a manual transmission, being different than say a motor, will not gain so much speed in the internal gears to create a problem like in an engine where using thicker oil would build up higher pressures leading to failure.
 
   / 90wt vs 140wt #4  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'm about to change my gear oil in the transmission on my Iseki 1910 but the only oil I seem to find in 90 wt is a GL5. From reading some post here, GL5 might not be so good?

A dealer here said they only sell a GL1/140 and use that because the 90wt is so thin now. My tractor suggest 90wt. and my tiller, the same. What happens, if anything by using a heavier oil?

comments?

thanks
Ron )</font></font>

Tell the guy he dont have a clue to the real world!!

USE a GL-5 lube..and you can buy anything from a 85-95...80-90...etc.. I think they even have a syn thats 85-140.
 

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